Yeah I saw that on the couch last night. Warnock was left on the ground with his arm behind his back...

Hopefully the wookie can upload it..

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And Cyril wasn't cited I take it?

I'm sorry but I disagree we need to suck up the media hype - it is completely over the top. How the head of the MRP can make those comments before it has even gone to tribunal is farcical.

Have I missed something??? Did Judd murder someone?? FMD

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If Judd gets more than 3 weeks (2 with an extra week for loading) then the AFL is [REDACTED] and obviously beholden to the media. They've elected to try it under "misconduct" as that allows them to apply any penalty they pull out of their arse to appease the slavering morons calling for 6-8 weeks.

The media circus surrounding it has been embarrassing to be completely honest.

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Agree. Not taking away that it was a silly thing for Judd to do, but this is trial by media. And the majority of the football media are no better than the reporters on Today Tonight. Tabloid flower. It's ridiculous the levels this has gotten to. Anyone who'd just arrived in the country would think that he'd done a Barry Hall-Brent Staker job on Leigh Adams...some journalists (and talkback morons) calling for 6 weeks? Hall got 7 for the aforementioned act that could have killed Staker.

If it's anything greater than 3 (and even that is pushing it) - and if I was the CEO or President of Carlton - I'd tell the AFL to shove it. Tell them the coach and players will not be doing any media for the remainder of the season. Want to fine us? Go ahead.

Exactly.

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North sent him back on the ground. It was the incidental collision with Andy Collins that dislocated his shoulder. Either way, North Melbourne have a case to answer. What's the bet this doesn't even see the light of day.

That bothers me too.

They sent him back on - they thought he was OK. How can they then turn around and say it was the first incident which caused the dislocation when he was involved in two? If it was the first, why did he go back on?

It's not clear-cut enough for them to make a decision regarding the outcome.

So the doctors are admitting they sent an injured player back onto the ground. Where is the duty of care, sack the doctors and lose their license.

SEN are talking about the cyril tackle on SEN.. Cyril does it all the time they are saying.

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This should work in Judd's favour, obviously Adams' shoulder is that loose that it pops out and back in easily enough for it to allow him to play out a match.

The AFL will ignore that though.

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I'm pretty sure he did. I saw the headline "Football Player Charged With Murder" on Monday morning and thought 'Well, that bloody-well serves Juddy right!'

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Agree with the sentiment Doc, but it's very reactive and "after the fact". I've said it before and I'll say again : we should've got Judd and Ratten out there talking the talk no later than Sunday to head all this off before the hysteria got out of control.

We should get the best lawyers we can and go in there and expose the AFL for the hypocrites they are. There would be numerous examples of similar incidents that didn't even get cited, Cyril's being one of them.

Also, the head of the MRP making comments like that would be considered contempt of court in the real legal system, which the tribunal has been set up to mimic.

I hope Judd gets off on a technicality just to see the reaction of other supporters and the media.

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Feelgood Hit of the Winter - GHRP-2, GHRP-6, CJC-1295, AOD-9604, Humanofort and Hexarelin

Does anyone know where I can see this?

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Fyfe, JK and Porplyzia all have been sent back on after having the shoulder dislocate.

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wheres that love of football waning thread?

what a farce this is

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

The North Melbourne Medical/Sports Science Team are held in very poor light by the rest of the AFL world - their Sports Science guy is almost in the "Slapping Fishes Together" territory - they can go and flower themselves as far as I am concerned.

I was of the opinion that what Judd did was dumb and a result of 200+ games of being scragged and tagged from pillar to post. So 3 or 4 times he has had a brain fade/snap as a result of not being allowed to play the game fairly, okay I get it the AFL has and always will punish the retaliator (hard but fair I know).

But as far as I am concerned the media have completely lost the plot as far as this is incident is concerned. They have condemned, tried and executed Judd and it flowering stinks.

So I hope Judd does get off (but I doubt it) and the media can spend the rest of the flowering season taking the high moral outraged ground.

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Maybe so...but I bet after the game in the rooms they are first to see the physio. Leigh Adams was fine in the rooms post-match. No ice on the shoulder, nothing...why would you let him do media?

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If Judd gets anything like the ridiculous penalties being called for by the slobbering media pack I'm done with footy and the AFL this year.
That bloke from the tribunal saying they're gonna throw the book at Judd can @#$%&! off too.

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Take a look at todays HUN. On the front page there is a small photo of the incident that shows another version of it. Judd has hold of Adams' right arm BEFORE he goes to ground. It looks like he is trying to handball. When the player goes to ground Judd would still have hold of his arm and of course it would go up further.
This witch hunt has gone beyond a joke, Mark Frasers comments were totally out of line, who does this average footballer and failed umpire think he is?
Interesting that paper is now saying he can plead guilty and get a reduced sentence, which is it.?