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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2012 11:21 pm 
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Pressure points and chicken wing, Judd is not going to be remembered for just his football the way he is going.

He held the arm and then wrenched it back causing Adam's shoulder to pop out. Reminded me if the situation for the pressure point incident opposition player Powerless on the ground and Judd does something stupid.

"Adams' shoulder suffered a subluxation, meaning it slipped out and then back into the socket, and he had been sent for scans"

Medium impact? High Impact?

Imagine its S. Milne doing this to Murphy/Carazzos shoulder in round 23 every Carlton fan would be spewing.

Still Welliingham only got 3 weeks for attempted murder.

He did the damage to the shoulder in a collission in the last quarter. The chicken wing was just the appetizer.


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:29 am 
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the hysteria surrounding this incident is out of control. Have you watched the incident or just repeating the tripe spewing from the mouths of Mark Robinson, Damian Barrett et al??

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:33 am 
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my initial impression of the incident was that the arm was being held to prevent adams from trying to hit the ball out i.e. to get a holding decision.

There was a second movement by judd though I saw that more as a push/tug back in response to adams trying to force his arm free.

There was certainly no malice in it - if there was, the shoulder would have been heavily damaged right there.


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 9:08 am 
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bosman wrote:
Eddie wrote:
This was discussed on radio this morning. General feeling is 2 weeks but he could go straight to the tribunal due to the unusual incident. Jamo is a dill and will also go for at least 2 weeks. Bet Zeibell gets off though.
This really is turning out to be the season from hell.


heard the same crap on SEN as well.

how can they say Ziebell was going for the ball.
If zielbell was going for the ball, he would of had his arm above his head to hit the ball.
nope, he went side on, tucked his arm along his side and jumped off the ground and didn't even touch the ball...


Ziebell has history on this, he took Nick Reiwoldt doing the same thing last season

Grima I think it was whacked Duigan off the ball 15 metres out from goal in the 3rd qtr - he was on the ground withering in pain due to contact to the stomach, the ump looked around saw him on the ground and then turned away and watched the stoppage 100 metres away - those marshans must be back at Etihad again


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:40 am 
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The Herald Sun choosing to totally ignore the fact the North bloke actually injured his shoulder in a heavily collision after (with robbo/Scotland maybe?) on the half back flank later in the game that caused the injury and him to come off. Don't worry about reporting accurately - at all!


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 10:47 am 
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We need to make sure we have similar incidents to highlight at the tribunal and protect our captain.
North Melbourne and the media in general have trialled and convicted our captain even before the case, we need to make sure we highlight this and have a good counter argument to show trial via media. McGuire is very good at this.
In other words get on the front foot ffs.


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:01 am 
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I'm sure I read in that little filthy rag (not that I bought it) that Adams said there was nothing in it & he hoped Judd got off

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 11:27 am 
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He did say something like he would be disappointed if he got suspended for the incident. At the ground I didn't even notice the incident itself.

He obviously had a shoulder issue already. It's going to be hard for them to judge in the case, especially with him getting another knock later.

The trial by media is disgusting though. I'm pretty sure that will influence the MRP.


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
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mass hysteria. kade simpson could of been killed or paralysed last week but wellingham doesnt have judds profile so the focus isnt as intense.....

weve all seen the hysteria before with our salary cap penalties and even as far back as diesel getting 9 weeks for pushing an umpire. a few weeks later chris johnson got 3 weeks for doing the same thing.

the vultures in the media get on their high horses and demand that the game shouldnt tolerate such things. throw the book at him bla bla! its judd, he has a high profile & the bigger an issue they make out of it the more they can talk about it and the more papers they sell

its sickening but thats the way it seems to work for our club.


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 12:27 pm 
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Even Andy Maher and Walls are on the hysteria train. Very disappointing.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
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4thchicken wrote:
There was a second movement by judd




I heard there was a 4thchickenwing movement...

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 1:29 pm 
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Nice of Matty Lloyd to call Juddy a liar.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
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Coming from a guy who lied his entire football career by staging and diving, that's a bit rich.


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 2:55 pm 
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This is going to be media driven.

I dont like Juddys chances.

But he has only one person to blame.

Ratten !!! :lol:

Well two... himself and Ratten

Theyre playing wthout a clear head and focus...

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:18 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Nice of Matty Lloyd to call Juddy a liar.


Wow, really?

Cause James Hird was NEVER going to coach Essendon* remember?


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 3:19 pm 
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Nice of Matty Lloyd to call Juddy a liar.


Wow, really?

Cause James Hird was NEVER going to coach Essendon* remember?


...and Matty NEVER destabilized Kinight's coaching.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
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North have already said on Friday night that he was booked to go in at Season end for a shoulder reconstruction regardless.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:05 pm 
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I must say that this is not a good look; and worse than the live vision I saw.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Sun Jul 15, 2012 4:39 pm 
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I don't think Juddy meant to do any damage to Adam's shoulder. Looks like he was trying to keep his arm away from being able to get the ball out. Mind you I wish he did it a bit differently though. As previous posters have said because its Juddy he will probably get done for it.


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