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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:29 pm 
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keogh wrote:
Possibly the most overrated footballer in the league. Does little at Fremantle and gets a 4 year contract. Gets another 3 year contract for doing very little.
Even his good games havent been out of this world.

Personally I cannot see how any club can give Warnock 7 years.



Take a closer look at his back half of 2011. In the final 10 games (when he was finally fit), he averaged 34 hitouts , 2.5 marks, 13 possesions & 3 tackles per game. BOG in both our 2011 finals....

http://www.fanfooty.com.au/players/year ... &year=2011

He's a 25yo ruckman, about to enter his footballing prime - wise re-signing IMO.

Jarrad Waite & 3 year deal at start of 2012, now that's a different matter altogether.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:35 pm 
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I think it's been posted elsewhere before but circa 2002 when our starting ricks were Prendgast (192cm) and Merrington (192cm) then personally I can't get enough of 3 x 200cm plus ruckmen on our list.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:56 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
I think it's been posted elsewhere before but circa 2002 when our starting ricks were Prendgast (192cm) and Merrington (192cm) then personally I can't get enough of 3 x 200cm plus ruckmen on our list.


THE HORROR!!

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:04 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
I think it's been posted elsewhere before but circa 2002 when our starting ricks were Prendgast (192cm) and Merrington (192cm) then personally I can't get enough of 3 x 200cm plus ruckmen on our list.


THE HORROR!!


Follow that up with a Cain Ackland & an almost Trent Knobel (if Richmond hadn't gotten in first)..


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:07 pm 
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what is the drama? more negotiating power to strike the right deal with GWS at seasons end......or do we wont to get nothing for him like an out of contract Jacobs?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:11 pm 
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The right move IMO. Also good to see someone who would have more money and more opportunity available elsewhere want to stay with us.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:37 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:40 pm 
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Harry took 5 years to be any good too. At times he was useless. 6th year just missed the Brownlow and never looked back.

That's true Jim, and how many other top quality ruck men were on our list at the time? Warnock is not a bad first ruck, but we have another #1 draft choice who is first ruck, not too mention Hammo. If Warnock is poised to be a star,where is big K? Ratts was quoted in today's Age that great rucks are better rucking for 90% of the time. Who is that? Big K, if so where is Warnock. And if he wasn't going to deliver till he was 25+, why did we pay so far over the odds for the last 4 yrs? Jacobs is younger and better and cheaper. He was ours, and we sacrificed him for a guy after the money. Why can't we recruit and develop our own. Warnock came for the money. And if youbtakevthe big money you need to do a lot more than he has so far.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:42 pm 
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Very popular with the boys

But is he good with the kids?


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:53 pm 
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And if he wasn't going to deliver till he was 25+, why did we pay so far over the odds for the last 4 yrs?


If we didn't he'd be playing somewhere else now as he's about to enter the prime of his career.

Surely you understand that you have to pay a premium to attract talent. If we were trying to recruit him to the club now, he'd be paying a much steeper price.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 9:58 pm 
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truebluebrad wrote:
Surely you understand that you have to pay a premium to attract talent. If we were trying to recruit him to the club now, he'd be paying a much steeper price.


but brad we had 3 promising rucks on our list, we paid over the odds for Warnock, lost Jacobs because we'd recruited yet another ruck ahead of him, meanwhile we have three guys who can only play first ruck and no key forwards.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:03 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
jim wrote:
Harry took 5 years to be any good too. At times he was useless. 6th year just missed the Brownlow and never looked back.

That's true Jim, and how many other top quality ruck men were on our list at the time? Warnock is not a bad first ruck, but we have another #1 draft choice who is first ruck, not too mention Hammo. If Warnock is poised to be a star,where is big K? Ratts was quoted in today's Age that great rucks are better rucking for 90% of the time. Who is that? Big K, if so where is Warnock.

It's so hard to read given that the 3 we kept can't stay healthy so we're not getting a consistent read on any of them. With the rules as they currently stand with the sub it seems the Weagles are about the only ones really making 2 ruckman work but they are both freaks.
Maybe it strengthens our trade position and I hope the didn't pay him heaps.
I made the call on the Ants thread that I can easily see Levi become our forward ruckman giving Krooz a chop out, with Hammer also improving this season as a ruckman but more often making better arial contests.
Hard to believe that all of them are going to be content not being the main man: if they are then they must see a bright fututre for the club and want to be part of it.
Mmmmm.


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:03 pm 
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lucablue wrote:
SHHH! wrote:
AGRO wrote:
I think it's been posted elsewhere before but circa 2002 when our starting ricks were Prendgast (192cm) and Merrington (192cm) then personally I can't get enough of 3 x 200cm plus ruckmen on our list.


THE HORROR!!


Follow that up with a Cain Ackland & an almost Trent Knobel (if Richmond hadn't gotten in first)..

You've both convinced me...

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:09 pm 
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I'd rather have him playing for us than against us. Congrats Robbie.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:36 pm 
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lucablue wrote:
Follow that up with a Cain Ackland & an almost Trent Knobel (if Richmond hadn't gotten in first)..


Costly move for us that... we had to settle for Eddie Betts as compensation! :donk: :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 10:55 pm 
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..i still prefer Krooz as 1st ruck.. ..my concern, is how much better rucks go when carrying the majority of the ruck load.. ..very few genuine ruck combo's really excell.. ..both Krooz's and Knocker's better games have been when they've been the main ruck, with minimal ruck relief from a pinch-hitter..

..in regards to Mooney's comments, somce clarification needed.. ..he thinks from a blues view, it was a good move signing him up.. ..but from a player perspective, he thought it wasnt a smart move.. ..he's very much pro-Krooz, and doesn't understand why Robbie would settle for number 2 ruck.. ..i don't mind Mooney's media, especially ever since he remarked in response to Murphy's fine for giving Joffa the bird, Mooney happily chimed in that it was worth every cent..

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:02 pm 
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Thank Goodness.
We need 3 ruckman on the list.
I cannot believe people are sooking that we signed him.
This place sometimes is quite unbelievable.


This.



Definitely this


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PostPosted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 11:05 pm 
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I don't even agree that he is a good tap ruckman... He's a ruckman who is good at getting taps, sure, but I just don't see us getting any real advantage from his ruck work.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 5:59 am 
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I cannot believe some are still whinging and whining about Sauce and blaming the club.

I can't be bothered looking but I bet it's the same people that conveniently want to rewrite the Elliott years and have them looking like roses.

The dude wanted to go home, it's as simple as that.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2012 7:21 am 
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AGRO wrote:
I think it's been posted elsewhere before but circa 2002 when our starting ricks were Prendgast (192cm) and Merrington (192cm) then personally I can't get enough of 3 x 200cm plus ruckmen on our list.


And don't forget the McClokeland days circa 2005-07.
Glad he has signed - we need 3 bona fide ruckman.

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