A lot didn't think Bootsma, Watson or McInness weren't ready either.

Casbolt has been on the list for 2 years I think and Mitchell has had big raps by his team mates and some supporters over pre-season so why not.

We need to see how these kids go sooner or later.
It's never going to be a good time to blood kids when our whole list is healthy that's why we have extended lists, rookies and so on.

The same was said about Watson.

We need to start playing the kids and giving them a taste for it. We need to start playing the future of our footy club. Even if they only get a taste of 1 or 2 games this season, it will do wonders for their development and give them an understanding of where they need to be to make it in the big time.

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I think the simple fact is that Mitchell (who is on our Senior List) and Casboult (who is a rookie and needs to be elevated) are so seriously underdone for both AFL match fitness and practise - that to give them an opportunity this Friday Night to "see what they are capable of" would be unfair to them and unfair to the team.

I would think that its probably just a huge gamble bringing in Henderson for this game as well.

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Big big difference.

Bootsma, Watson and McInness all had good pre seasons and were match fit.

Mitchell & Casboult are so behind in conditioning it isn't funny.

Mitchell's goal is to get through the season and have a big pre season. Nothing more.

Casboult has missed fourteen weeks with a knee. He needs at least 3-4 weeks of game time before he is considered.

I am all for playing the kids but to play them when they aren't fit enough will benefit nobody, especially the individual.

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Mitchell was ready to go round 1 until his shoulder injury got in the way of things.
Under normal circumstances I have no doubt he would have had the opportunity, but right now he's toughing it to run a game out.
Casboult likewise as he only played his first game back from injury last week.

Bootsma, Watson and McInnes have not had any long lay-offs this year and had momentum behind them. Very different situation.

We have been playing underdone players all year (too many to list). This time of the year, most players in the AFL are underdone. A lot of players are carrying some injury and have to push through the pain barrier each week or have a jab so thye can get out there.

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When his replacement has cancer and is out indefinetely, not much the CFC can do about that, Ryan.

Two very different situations Clayman.
You're at an extreme disadvantage these days playing someone who is essentially planted to the one spot.

Mitchell and Casboult have not the fitness levels to run out a match although Mitchell is currently closer to the mark than Casboult having 4 games under his belt.
I just can't see it happening and not for the players but for their fitness levels. Having said that.................?????

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Not debutants. You can argue the point all you want but there is not one benefit to playing two new kids, who are talls and need more time, when they simply aren't ready.

Personally guys such as Lucas, OKeefe, Dale, Buckley, Ellard, Thornton would be ahead of them.

If you are desperate to play a new tall it would be McCarthy. At least he has the fitness to at leads compete.

Anyway we won last week by finally playing one ruck and a more running side. Why would we change that?

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..agreed, you have a limit to how many underdone players you can field, ditto with 'kids'.. ..unless yer a champ team in stunning form with good systems in place [which we are not], playing underdone debutants in a classic 8point game is an option, when it's literally the only option..

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No way would you play underdone casboult and Mitchell when we have thornton there.
Finals are still a chance. Play the kids when we have no chance.
Casboult and Mitchell aren't match fit. Playin them
Could hurt their confidence.
We have to eat north. They are a joke.
We played 10 weeks of garbage - we should be pretty fresh

Didn't I read somewhere where Thornton had the worst gps data of any player at our club? Worse than Mitchell? Considering Mitchell had a shoulder he was still running. Carrots came straight in and didn't miss a beat. Murph may do the same.

Mitchell also pinch hit for warnonk in the ruck V frankston on Sunday. Dress rehearsal? If mitchell doesn't get a run, I don't think it has much to do with conditioning.

tbh, I'd rather mitchell than rushing henderson, and if Thornton has clocked off and stopped running, Mitchell could well be more up and about.

Agro is correct, while I am also for giving the young players a go neither Casboult or Mitchell are ready in terms of endurance and would be a liability after half a game.

Thornton may be lazy but he's versatile and a good mark.

Gotta admit I find it funny Warnock got himself suspended he's probably the least likely player at the club to get rubbed out. Does anyone remember a Collingwood game a while back where bogan Leigh Brown was getting in his face and he was just swatting him away like you would a fly? LOL.

I'm not entirely up with the NB's so I go from what I see from time to time and others reports.
I think Kreuzer was good last week but Jolly isn't fantastic at this point in time either.
I just like having two ruck likes in the team at the same time and think Kreuzer might need a break every now and then.
If McCarthy is the best fit for now then he serves more than one purpose.
Apart form the first one mentioned I believe at least one tall forward focal point is needed at all times and I think Warnock is cocky and needs to pull his head in.
Put some pressure on him to regain his spot because he is playing it like a smart ass.
I also believe that North will try and take advantage with their taller players.
I don't think Thornton is a main target so someone else is needed.
It's only Ethihad and Hampson is interchanged for a nother tall.
If Murphy comes in for Simmo that wouyld negate his loss and I also think we need another speedster to come in.

Their recent form indicates otherwise....

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Surely no one would consider bringing a rookie in to play ruck/fwd who has been out with a knee since round 1

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Can't see one win being enough to change five years of a set approach of being inflexible with players who have run out of chances.

In order of likelyhood

1) Bower recalled and played forward
2) Henderson or Waite rushed back 1-2 weeks early
3) Mitchell or Casboult debuts
4) Betts relief ruck
5) Thornton recalled

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Coming off a good win there wont be more than 2 changes and they are forced.

Murphy will come in for Simpson and one of Henderson/Thornton will come in for Hampson.

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