I reckon you should only be eligible for one discount.

You would see a player who's up on 2 charges, who gets 3 for one and 2 for the other, he can serve those suspensions 'concurrently'.

With that in mind, the discounts should be applied 'concurrently'.

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Congratulations CK95

You've become a tad obscure lately, Rhino. It's almost like you're blaming Shaw or even Simmo. It's like blaming the rape victim cos she was wearing a short skirt. Get with the program, dude. It was there for all to see.

BTW, I'm not for a minute saying Wellingham is generally a dirty player. I actually like him. But he slipped up here, had a brain fade, and it could've been a lot more serious than it was. The amount of intent is irrelevant to me; there was obviously sufficient intent for him to be punished - and punished a lot heavier than he was.

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After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
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Certainly not trying to blame Simmo, the point I'm trying to get across here is that Shaw, by virtue of being a lazy @#$%&! and not committing to the contest, left Wellingham with two options - shirk the contest or go in reckless and late and cause some damage. I think the footage shows Wellingham realise late that Shaw wasn't going to be third man up.

Ergo, given the penchant for us supporters to hang shit on the likes of Bryce Gibbs, Jack Watts, Leroy Jetta, etc. for shirking contests, and not going when its their time to go, I think that a better target of abuse here is Heath Shaw for shirking the contest in the first place, rather than Wellingham being stuck between a rock and a hard place.

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You've become a tad obscure lately, Rhino. It's almost like you're blaming Shaw or even Simmo. It's like blaming the rape victim cos she was wearing a short skirt. Get with the program, dude. It was there for all to see.

BTW, I'm not for a minute saying Wellingham is generally a dirty player. I actually like him. But he slipped up here, had a brain fade, and it could've been a lot more serious than it was. The amount of intent is irrelevant to me; there was obviously sufficient intent for him to be punished - and punished a lot heavier than he was.

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After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

A little photoshop to ease the pain a little...move over Wilfred, we've got a new dog on our TV

I think in that case that he should be put down.

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Hahahahahah

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Yep.....realise all of that Moshe.....I was really stressing the point that the VFL Tribunal would've come down on Wellingham like a ton of bricks.....there were really no mitigating circumstances a player like him could cling to......anyway.....it's done and dusted now.

As a side item of interest....John Greening had played 94 consecutive games when he was hit....and Simmo had played 158 consecutive games since 2007 when he was hit.

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Before I respond - can I confirm your definition of the "old" VFL tribunal? Any particular era between 1896 to 1989 that you're referring to exactly? I'm assuming it's limited exclusively to the Gaffney era that you mentioned earlier?

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Ive already said enough in this thread for anyone to see where I stand.

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

Fair enough then.

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1 ... 46,3003287

Page 12 of this article. Weideman suspended for four matches for striking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 11 of this article. Weideman suspended for two matches for striking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 1 of this article. Phil Carman suspended for two weeks for striking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 33 of this article. Phil Carman suspended for two weeks for striking (interesting author too!)

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 17 of this article. Included it as I thought it was quite funny. Robert Muir suspended for 8 weeks for kicking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 28 of this article. Robert Muir suspended for 4 weeks for striking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=n- ... nded&hl=en

Page 1 of this article. Robert Muir suspended for 2 weeks for striking, fails to appear at tribunal

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 40 of this article. Robert Muir suspended for 4 weeks for striking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 40 of this article. Ronnie Andrews suspended for 5 weeks for striking Phil Maylan

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 1 of this article. Ronnie Andrews suspended for 4 weeks for striking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 1 of this article. Ronnie Andrews suspended for 6 weeks for part in Windy Hill Brawl

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 1 of this article. Carl Ditterich suspended for 4 weeks for striking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 1 of this article. Carl Ditterich suspended for 6 weeks for striking

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=M ... page&hl=en

Page 12 of this article. Berkely Cox resumes after four weeks suspension (AND BIG TOP OF THE TABLE, TABLE TENNIS PENNANT CLASH


Fun trip down memory lane, but can't find any example of the old VFL tribunal giving 8 weeks for a similar offence. Muir kicking a bloke whilst he's on the ground, and Carman attacking an umpire aside, struggling to find anything higher than six. Plenty of tribunal decisions with four week suspension verdicts handed down for blokes belting another bloke out of play though.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

I think the only wrong thing in this outcome is that you should never be able to get a sentence reduced by more than 1 game. It should have been 5 reduced to 4 regardless of good record or early plea (the early plea stuff is a joke anyhow).

You'll probably find that the "good behaviour" crap is something the AFLPA insisted on to allow a more stringent points system, and to allow the MRP to be brought in.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

So, should we bring back the WOOF! for whenever Wellingham plays against us?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

You will find the more the media and the football public complain about the leniency of the AFL's sentence the more intransigent the AFL will become about it.

You only had to listen to Adrian "Chester" Anderson squirming responses on 3AW last night:

- we review all these things at the end of the season blah blah blah

- we respect the independence of the Match Review Panel blah blah blah

- Wellingham had a unblemished player record blah blah blah



Surprisingly no mention of the head being "sancrosanct" or that we want to make sure that "parents want their kids playing AFL" in this particular interview.

And more gallingly nothing about the condition of the wronged player in this instance with a Broken Jaw and Concussion.

Just more cherry picking spin from "Chester" Anderson.

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Winston Churchill

puke.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

my conspiracy theory is that the AFL didn't realise that the 5 year rule would come into play, they only though he would get a weeks reduction. In their initial press release they stated a 5 week penalty reduced to 4 (I think). Then they released a statement saying this was an error. Perhaps if they knew it was three they would have sent it straight to the tribunal (they have that power right?)

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If there is one outcome out of this that might quell my fury just a touch is the widespread acknowledgement that this piece of sh!t wellingdog is an out and out canine!

Filthy rotten cauliflower!

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C'mon Blueboys!

My old man had a good suggestion and said that if a player is cited and the MRP judge their total points tally to be over 500 then no discounts should be applied - early plea, good record - because if it gets that high they've done something fairly serious and should wear the full penalty.

Also, "good behaviour" should be expected, not necessarily rewarded.