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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 10:45 pm 
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... then just watch the replay


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:36 pm 
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Good point. Just watching the replay now. Let's see if they leave him there.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:37 pm 
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Totally worth a new thread.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 4:42 pm 
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I'd also like a thread on why Gibbs went pick 1 please.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:01 pm 
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Then go watch the replay of Cotchin's game at the weekend.

There are arguments for both but it is not clear cut.

My opinion is I would always go for a mid over a ruckman. You only need one good ruckman plus class mids can make all the difference.

But when it comes down to it we now have Kruezer and nothing will change it.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:14 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Then go watch the replay of Cotchin's game at the weekend.

There are arguments for both but it is not clear cut.

My opinion is I would always go for a mid over a ruckman. You only need one good ruckman plus class mids can make all the difference.

But when it comes down to it we now have Kruezer and nothing will change it.

Kruez is a ruckman and a mid

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:16 pm 
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for me its never been why choose Kruise

its given we chose Kruise

why @#$%&! choose Warnock and Hampson?

They should have been happy with Kruise and Jacobs

but no we overloaded

Kruise, Hampson, Warnock and Jacobs was poor management in my humble and ignorant view.

They were not to foresee the use of 1 ruck and a forward/ruck

were they?

Or did they think Kruise and Hammer would become forward rucks? -

either way - oops!

We have Kruise and do not need Warnock

we might be able to develop Hammer to become the forward/ruck but then with other more mobile blokes around him - not another ruckman!

Or Caboult/Mitchell becomes that forward/ruckman to relieve Kruise

but where oh where were we ever going to need Warnock and Kruise and Hammer

when we already had Jacobs?

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:19 pm 
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baz_baz wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Then go watch the replay of Cotchin's game at the weekend.

There are arguments for both but it is not clear cut.

My opinion is I would always go for a mid over a ruckman. You only need one good ruckman plus class mids can make all the difference.

But when it comes down to it we now have Kruezer and nothing will change it.

Kruez is a ruckman and a mid


People say that but its not close. Yes he is good around the ball and the ground for a "ruckman" but the reality is he is not even close to a mid.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:22 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
baz_baz wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Then go watch the replay of Cotchin's game at the weekend.

There are arguments for both but it is not clear cut.

My opinion is I would always go for a mid over a ruckman. You only need one good ruckman plus class mids can make all the difference.

But when it comes down to it we now have Kruezer and nothing will change it.

Kruez is a ruckman and a mid


People say that but its not close. Yes he is good around the ball and the ground for a "ruckman" but the reality is he is not even close to a mid.

Nup...don't agree. His clearance handballs are consistently good. His push work to clearance is also good and capably shown good leg speed on the occassions he gets it on the outside. Great combination is Kruez

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 5:46 pm 
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Providing he is playing on the oppositions ruckman he can be considered a midfielder. Up against a proper midfielder like Pendlebury, Swan, Thompson, Dangerfield etc he would get murdered.

He does have the tools to embarrass an opposition ruckman with his mobility. THe oppo dude would want to rip him apart in the hit outs to balance out what he will lose around the ground.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:01 pm 
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The best way to develop ruckmen is through the rookie draft imo

...and then there's Kruezer & NicNat

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:04 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Providing he is playing on the oppositions ruckman he can be considered a midfielder. Up against a proper midfielder like Pendlebury, Swan, Thompson, Dangerfield etc he would get murdered.

He does have the tools to embarrass an opposition ruckman with his mobility. THe oppo dude would want to rip him apart in the hit outs to balance out what he will lose around the ground.

Like i said he is neither purely one or the other. He is just a gun combination

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:08 pm 
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Jolly isn't that great a ruckman anymore and he never was the wide bodied ruckman that kreuzer has problems with.
Let's see over the next few weeks


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 6:18 pm 
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This is what I think of when I think of Kruezer; pure brute force followup work.
It lead to a free kick, but that's not as important as the intent. Also love how he immediately gets up and races after Jolly.
No other ruck in the comp does it quite the same way. Nic Nat followsup, no doubt, but in a different style.
Question is can he keep this up over the course of a long season plus finals?
It's gotta be brutal on the body.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:03 pm 
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have to see over a few games or a good year before we start jerking each other off, show me the other games this year where krueze has dominated... none of course.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:20 pm 
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blueboys101 wrote:
have to see over a few games or a good year before we start jerking each other off, show me the other games this year where krueze has dominated... none of course.



Jerking each other off,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Teeheehee !!! :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 7:27 pm 
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blueboys101 wrote:
show me the other games this year where krueze has dominated... none of course.

Richmond v Carlton
9 Matthew Kreuzer (Carl)
6 Andrew Carrazzo (Carl)
5 Marc Murphy (Carl)
4 Trent Cotchin (Rich)
3 Bryce Gibbs (Carl)
3 Kade Simpson (Carl)

Carlton vs Collingwood
9 Judd (Carl)
6 Carrazzo (Carl)
5 Murphy (Carl)
4 Scotland (Carl)
3 Kreuzer (Carl)
2 Gibbs (Carl)
1 Betts (Carl)

I guess Kreuzer needs to grow a mullet or be a red haired giant to be noticed...

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:11 pm 
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Yep can't believe we went and drafted Hampson when we knew we were drafting Kreuzer the next year :donk:

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 8:15 pm 
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Yep can't believe we went and drafted Hampson when we knew we were drafting Kreuzer the next year :donk:


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 09, 2012 10:41 pm 
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Considering how shit we were back then, that comment is not far off the mark :grin:

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