The problem is having insurance out there. If Krooze went down with an injury in the 1st quarter, you're basically forfeiting the rest of the game.

Our options are bring a big forward in from the Ants or play warnock.

the only other option I see, is bring warnock in, but rather than play him up front, have him as a loose spoling/ marking target in the back third of the ground. That way our forward structure isn't compromised with Walker, Betts & Garlett, and we have insurance with warnock in the 22. Krooze then works the ruck around the ground unless inside the defensive 50.

might work ...

One game isn't a real good sample size. One ruck will work like a charm against the Eagles..........not!

agreed but we're comparing 8-9 games where it didn't work to 1 game in which it worked incredibly well. 1 from 1 vs 0 from 8
Obviously i agree with horses for courses, and against the eagles a 2nd genuine ruck should be considered.
against north. NO. Burn them with our pace and agility, they dont have cox and nicnat

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The time for being conservative is over. Take risks play 1 ruckman. If he gets injured so be it - back the mids to win the game.

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Warnock has been reported today so may not be an option.

Would like to see us try using both Kruz and Warnock on the ball at the same time. This satisfies both players need to work on the ball.

The plan is to use Kruz a bit like we used Swan in the 70s. Warnock takes the ball up, Kruz on the back edge of the center square or on the wing. Once the play has started Kruz goes to the contest and plays as the extra midfielder that he demonstrated on Friday night. Meanwhile Warnock spreads to create a marking option when we have the ball or plays a defensive role against the opposition ruck. In general play we double team the opposition ruck, Warnock stays out of the ground level packs and provides tall support back or forward. Kruz gets in amongst it clears a path for the other mids and uses his capacity to read the game to push forward or stay back. In the process we add much needed height and strength in forward and back halves. Warnock showed last year that he can play a role around the ground. it seems both players need the faith and responsibility to show their best.

When Henderson, Waite, Hampson or others become available again the dual ruck plan should become all the more effective because we would have multiple tall options with Kruz, Hendo and Waite also mobile and good below the knees.

Oh for a season where our best talls don't spend half the season injured!!

It's amazing how often I read things like "we can't do that because that's not what everyone else does" and
then further down the track read how poor Ratten is at innovation. You can't have it both ways.

I like the idea of the one ruckmen trial and upsetting the oppositions team balance. Let them worry about
matching it with us rather than the other way 'round.

We need to remember that Collingwood ruck stocks are pretty low. Jolly is a shadow of the player of a couple of years ago. No Leigh Brown now, which leaves Dawes as a back up, pretty ordinary.

A great game by Krooz, we know he's not fit though, can't expect a game like that every week. North will be a bigger test, we need to go in with two ruckmen.

Not sure how well you can play when you aren't fit. So if he is unfit, happy for him to keep playing if he plays like he did on Friday night. He clearly thrives on the challenge, which he hasn't had for a while with the constant 2 or 3 ruckmen per game. He provides a bucket-load more than 206, who contests the ruck and then steps back. He may not have a pre-season under his belt but, but right now at this crucial end of the season, 206 is a liability.

Could be forced to have one Ruckman

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Warnock facing 2 weeks off?

Unlock the chains.

Might be a good thing.
Forces a bit of "thinking outside the box".

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..outside the box?, as in use say Walker as relief ruck?, he does have some spring..

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Robert Walls is on radio at the moment, nearly fell off my chair when he just said Thornton may have to come in to help in the ruck. Thats a change of heart from Walls, he hates Thornton.

I assumed initially that you were just taking the p*ss ... but I don't know ... is this an option?
Sheeet ... wouldn't that give us some serious running power!! Probably not, but if he could jump
high enough to get his knees in the oppositions rib cage ... hmmm.

Depends really whether or not Kruze is up to doing the job by himself, then all we really need is
an injury contingency plan. Who's got height ... Watson?

Quickly recruit Trent Ormond-Allan

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I think we saw the answer to that on Friday night. Kreuzer would love to play against Jolly every week, but seems to struggle when playing against taller ruckmen (which happens most weeks).

Looks like Kreuz has finally given in to that knee injury he has had most of the year, will probably miss.
So, any one still querying we have to many rucks? Surely not. Reality gets in the way sometimes .

Watson taps down to the speedy agile Mclean in the centre who drills a pass to the leading CHF in Betts who goals!

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