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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:27 am 
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Troll.


No need to be a child.

Unlikely 90% of you vote at AGMs and majority that do take a calm and measured approach.

Which is needed, now.



Actually a review is whats needed now...

Calm and measured is what you say to people when you wish them to be calm and measured cos theyre angry with u....

A bit like the arm around the shoulders Mx smart used to do after he tried punching the big guy that didnt give...




I hope I wasnt out of line with that crack about him being a stupid big fat hairy gorilla. :razz:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:29 am 
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Well if you have manuals of the clubs processes I'd love to see them. But somehow I don't think you have even come close to them.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:38 am 
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Well if you have manuals of the clubs processes I'd love to see them. But somehow I don't think you have even come close to them.

i dont need a manual to see how you stack up against other big clubs.

i need a brain a set of eyes and reason


you need a manual

were different....

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:02 am 
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j.scarponi wrote:
Geoffery Eddleston has probably put as much in the club and few others that work behind the scenes that you probably never heard of.


Mate...I'm at the club once a week. I know a lot of people. Don't kid yourself.

j.scarponi wrote:
Unlikely 90% of you vote at AGMs and majority that do take a calm and measured approach.


:roll: :banghead: When's the last time you got a vote at an AGM? I used to vote...they don't hold elections anymore...but you wouldn't know that would you because you're only on here for one reason. Those that did vote in that past - all 8,000 of them - never had a calm and measured approach I can assure you. Scarponi - you're out of your depth. Time to move on.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:07 am 
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I am sure I voted in 2009. May have been in time warp. What a tool.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:10 am 
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Jeannie is on board so Pratt is not dead. Who has more balls attempting to turn a sinking a ship and making it a powerhouse being constantly vindicated in public eye is my question


He's dead FFS! Jeannie is about as useful as tits on a bull. Bruce Mathieson has done more for this club than the Pratts...you just don't know about it.


:thumbsup: :thanks: :thumbsup:

Bruce has set up sustainable money making ventures for the club which will ensure the Clubs viability going forward...

Bruce does not want credit for this in the public arena but without his contribution we would br F@$&?..

The club needs to listen to and act on Bruce's concerns...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:17 am 
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j.scarponi wrote:
I am sure I voted in 2009. May have been in time warp. What a tool.


You must have been stuck in a time-warp. It's now 2012! The last time you voted Marcus Clarke, Adrian Gleeson & Mark Harrison were nominating for re-election while Michael Spartels nominated to join the Board. That's a long time between votes. A long time for these people to get things right. I'll give you credit where it's due, you took the time to vote and gave them an opportunity to prove themselves...but guess what? Time's up.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:26 am 
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I am very well aware why the members vote took place. Should be a members vote this year.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:28 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
j.scarponi wrote:
I am sure I voted in 2009. May have been in time warp. What a tool.


You must have been stuck in a time-warp. It's now 2012! The last time you voted Marcus Clarke, Adrian Gleeson & Mark Harrison were nominating for re-election while Michael Spartels nominated to join the Board. That's a long time between votes. A long time for these people to get things right. I'll give you credit where it's due, you took the time to vote and gave them an opportunity to prove themselves...but guess what? Time's up.


I am sure they made an amendment to the Constitution regarding the tenure of a Director. I understand that it is no longer than 9 years or 3 election cycles...Can anyone explain why Sticks is still on the Board?


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:33 am 
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j.scarponi wrote:
I am very well aware why the members vote took place. Should be a members vote this year.


The current Board should declare all positions open and allow the members to vote on whoever nominates...

This won't happen though as ego and self preservation of the current Board Members believe they are bigger than the Club.. :banghead: :banghead:


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:33 am 
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Italian Blue wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
j.scarponi wrote:
I am sure I voted in 2009. May have been in time warp. What a tool.


You must have been stuck in a time-warp. It's now 2012! The last time you voted Marcus Clarke, Adrian Gleeson & Mark Harrison were nominating for re-election while Michael Spartels nominated to join the Board. That's a long time between votes. A long time for these people to get things right. I'll give you credit where it's due, you took the time to vote and gave them an opportunity to prove themselves...but guess what? Time's up.


I am sure they made an amendment to the Constitution regarding the tenure of a Director. I understand that it is no longer than 9 years or 3 election cycles...Can anyone explain why Sticks is still on the Board?



I think Sticks comes under the "he's just special" clause set up for club icons with the insight of Humphrey B Bear...

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:33 am 
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j.scarponi wrote:
I am very well aware why the members vote took place. Should be a members vote this year.


Sorry to disappoint you, but there won't be. For the 13,000th time - Craig Mathiseon and Ryan Trainor are coming on to the board. Mark Harrison, Ari Suss and Stephen Moulton are stepping down.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:37 am 
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Took the words right out of my mouth!!!!!

President - Fail
CEO - Fail
Coach - Fail
Football department - Fail
Medico's - Fail
Recruitment - Fail


Change is required. Problem is, this club is full of big-head's who are too bloody stubborn to admit that they're part of the problem.


We need a president who has leadership.
We need a CEO who actually does something.
we need a football department that covers all bases.
We need a medical department that can....... well - you know!

In regards to recruitment - I think it's been a failure for a while now but we've been blind sighted by it! It's a major concern and it will hurt us in the future.
When was the last time we had a Rising Star nomination?????


Personally, i'd love to see the back of Sticks, Swann, Ratts, McKay, Darren Harris (cause there sure as hell hasn't been any development anywhere) and I think it's time for Wayne Hughes to depart from the club as well.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:45 am 
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Italian Blue wrote:

I am sure they made an amendment to the Constitution regarding the tenure of a Director. I understand that it is no longer than 9 years or 3 election cycles...Can anyone explain why Sticks is still on the Board?



I think Sticks comes under the "he's just special" clause set up for club icons with the insight of Humphrey B Bear...[/quote]

He is still on the board because he was re elected in 2010 by default due to no one nominating and has spent four years as president.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:45 am 
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j.scarponi wrote:
I am sure I voted in 2009. May have been in time warp. What a tool.


I am really getting tired of your insults. You are making comments about people you nothing about.

Given what you have written over the past few weeks I cant see you have anything remotely constructive to say let alone close to being right.

Believe it or not there are a number of people (Doc S being one) that do actually have an intimate knowledge of what is going on. I get the impression you are just guessing.

Seriously, stop trying to make yourself feel better by insulting others. It is not a good quality. :mad:

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:45 am 
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BIRDTOWN wrote:
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Scoreboard results and the unwashed suggest it is Ratten - others like McKay suggest it is fitness and conditioning. I think there is a possibilty that there is a combination of the two. But I shall lean towards McKay's reasoning more.


Maybe it's McKay that is the issue, only downhill since his arrival....... Who else has arrived since the end of last season...?

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:46 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
j.scarponi wrote:
I am very well aware why the members vote took place. Should be a members vote this year.


Sorry to disappoint you, but there won't be. For the 13,000th time - Craig Mathiseon and Ryan Trainor are coming on to the board. Mark Harrison, Ari Suss and Stephen Moulton are stepping down.


Marcus Clarke, Richard Newton, Mark Lo Gudice, Adrain Gleeson, Greg Lee and Sticks should also go..

This would leave, Ryan Trainer, Craig Mathierson, Zac Fried, Jeenie Pratt, Ruffy Geminder...I've also heard that Tom Elliott and Harold Mitchell may consider a place on the Board?

This is the shake up we need and would ensure a proper review is undertaken of the club...


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:47 am 
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Italian Blue wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
j.scarponi wrote:
I am sure I voted in 2009. May have been in time warp. What a tool.


You must have been stuck in a time-warp. It's now 2012! The last time you voted Marcus Clarke, Adrian Gleeson & Mark Harrison were nominating for re-election while Michael Spartels nominated to join the Board. That's a long time between votes. A long time for these people to get things right. I'll give you credit where it's due, you took the time to vote and gave them an opportunity to prove themselves...but guess what? Time's up.


I am sure they made an amendment to the Constitution regarding the tenure of a Director. I understand that it is no longer than 9 years or 3 election cycles...Can anyone explain why Sticks is still on the Board?


The board was re elected in 2010 because of lack of nominations - no challengers in other words.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:54 am 
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Personally, i'd love to see the back of Sticks, Swann, Ratts, McKay, Darren Harris (cause there sure as hell hasn't been any development anywhere) and I think it's time for Wayne Hughes to depart from the club as well.


Sticks should step down from the Presidency. But there is a role for him at Carlton in the future. He just needs to step away for a while. This is his 27th consecutive year at the club. That's a long time without seeing things from the outside.

Ratts probably won't last. He's tried. Not wholly his fault. Would have made a great assistant. Can't fault ambition.

McKay is switched on. Don't underestimate him. He's done nothing wrong thus far....and a few things right. i like what i see. He'll be around if he wants to. It mightn't beat sticking your hand up a cows bum, but with the right changes it soon will.

Harris is as good as gone you'd think. Has had plenty of time to show results. He's a reasonably good kicking coach - I think the TAC Cup is a better fit for him.

Wayne Hughes has already been demoted. If he wasn't looking elsewhere as I type, I'd be very surprised. Keen to see Shane Rogers in the top job. He's unearthed some gems. Deserves his chance.


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PostPosted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:57 am 
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DocSherrin wrote:
ryan2000 wrote:
Personally, i'd love to see the back of Sticks, Swann, Ratts, McKay, Darren Harris (cause there sure as hell hasn't been any development anywhere) and I think it's time for Wayne Hughes to depart from the club as well.


Sticks should step down from the Presidency. But there is a role for him at Carlton in the future. He just needs to step away for a while. This is his 27th consecutive year at the club. That's a long time without seeing things from the outside.

Ratts probably won't last. He's tried. Not wholly his fault. Would have made a great assistant. Can't fault ambition.

McKay is switched on. Don't underestimate him. He's done nothing wrong thus far....and a few things right. i like what i see. He'll be around if he wants to. It mightn't beat sticking your hand up a cows bum, but with the right changes it soon will.

Harris is as good as gone you'd think. Has had plenty of time to show results. He's a reasonably good kicking coach - I think the TAC Cup is a better fit for him.

Wayne Hughes has already been demoted. If he wasn't looking elsewhere as I type, I'd be very surprised. Keen to see Shane Rogers in the top job. He's unearthed some gems. Deserves his chance.


Yep! :clap:

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