Actually, I'm not sure that's true.

Seems to me that the j.scarponi username exists solely to argue with people like synbad. Very clever trolling. But a pretty empty use of a person's time.

Obviously if the posts are not sack based or negative or deep seated hatred then it is trolling. Silly me.

scarps???

Waite....???

his last 5 good games in a row were?????

This is where you can prove youre not a troll.....

Casboult and Rowe are better than ipod.. because........????????

Rowe is better than Taylor Walker because.....................?????

(You cant use the scarps says so reason)

If i thin Ratten and Kernahan shouldnt be there .. thats my opinion.... i have stated over a number of years why i believe so...

Carlton football club is a nice new 'made in china' Carlton jumper..theres a loose thread... and Lonerghan saw it in the game against Essendon*.. and he pulled it and it pulled towards him....... and since then every guy that sees us on the street has seen this thread.. its getting longer and longer.. and theyre all having a shot at pulling it...the footy jumper is up just over our navels... and everyone can see it.. but were pretending its ok.its nothing.......acting like nothing is going on ....meanwhile everyone wants to have a go at pulling that thread even more...
Time of a new jumper...!!!

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From about Round 7 when I realise that 2012 was done, I've focused mainly on who could be part of a push next year with a changed coaching panel... This is my take:

Armfield - Yes
Betts - Yes
Bootsma - Yes
Bower - No
Buckley - Yes
Carrazzo - Yes
Casboult - Yes (must find any KPF at the club even if it seems slim)
Collins - Many might say no, I say Yes. I like more than half of what I see, and in particular his attitude.
Curnow - No (this may cause some conjecture)
Davies - No
Duigan - Yes
Ellard - Yes
Garlett - Yes
Gibbs - Yes
Hampson - Would be the first of the three talls I'd trade for a bonafide KPF if you could get one.
Henderson - Yes
Jamison - Yes
Joseph - No
Judd - Yes
Kerr - Needs to be given an opportunity. If not, then no.
Kreuzer - Yes
Laidler - Yes
Lucas - Yes I believe he can become a very good footballer
McCarthy - see Kerr
McInnes - see Kerr
McLean - I think his papers are stamped, but I think his 2012 has been the best for the club and he could definitely have a role to play in the first 22.
Mitchell - Yes
Murphy - Yes
O'Keefe - No
Robinson - Yes
Rowe - Yes
Russell - No
Scotland - Limited Yes
Simpson - Yes
Thornton - No
Tuohy - Yes
Waite - Wouldnt fetch much currency at trade, and contracted, so yes.
Warnock - Yes
Watson - Yes
White - Yes
Yarran - Yes

That's 6 changes, 7 if you offer up a Hampson for trade.

I think the current group can absolutely get back to the top third of the ladder and that this year is a blip, albeit with a series of seriously exposed deficiencies. One can be fixed with a change at the top, one can be fixed with the right pre-season program, and one can be fixed with the right trade but thats the harder one to fix.

At the cost of further losses (and really, who cares at this point), give the kids a go and see who's got what it takes.

pretty spot on for mine but have opposing view on Hampson (rather trade Warnock) and I haven't seen enough of McArthy to have an opinion.
Also don't know about whether White can be better than what he's shown. He just seems a little undersized for the positions he has played and not enough pace for a HBF.

Nah.

Cazzesman, who's never posted a single negative anti-board/club post in his life, isn't a troll. Countless others aren't either. They're real people who post what they believe, and if you met them for a beer they'd say the same things to your face.

A troll is someone who creates a character and a posting personality, to stir things up. To play other people. I think that's you.

Anyway I've made my point, and will go back to ignoring you. I imagine you'll keep this up for a while, leave... Then come back at some point in the future with another username.

It's all good, I ignore you too so the feeling is mutual
Posts full of esoteric utopian sackings - a moderator too no less.

Trade/delist

Bower
Aaron Joseph
Rohan Kerr
Rys OKeeffe
Jordan Russell
Bret Thornton
Brock McLean

7 is too many I think - so maybe 4/5 out of that group


Trade
1 of the 2 ruckmen , Warnock or Hampson (even tempted with Kruise if a brilliant deal came up but we do not need 3 ruckmen - that is what the 3 of them are) - I really don't care who of the two - whoever tosses up the best offer.
1 of Yarran, Walker or Garlett - again don't care who - use same strategy as above. - or decide who of the three is least likely to become a midfielder/forward - so sick of our love for the permanent position players - funnily enough, I think Ratts saw this deficiency also and promised more flexibility this year but I've not seen it - except for tossing Bower forward.

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Agree with teknodeejay's list assessment. But for some reason I'd keep O'Keeffe, injury prone but his U/18 highlights excited me when drafted and if he can stay on park he could be a decent player, if we drop him he'll be snapped up in an instant I reckon.

Also I'd make rookie changes.
Curnow- No: will never be more than a top up player
Bray- No: young but can't even make senior VFL side
Lodge- No: same as Bray
Bell- Yes, give him more time, injuries have derailed season
O'Keeffe- Yes: see above
Carter- Yes: done enough to warrant another year
Casboult- Yes: like teknodeejay said all KPF are req
Dale- Yes: upgrade, he has something about him, footy smarts & natural instinct
Heyne- No: never gonna make it.

I would probably go a bit harder on regenerating the list based on the following:

The following players won't be around in 3 years based on a hypothetical age barrier if kept: Carrazzo, Judd, Simpson, Waite, Scotland, Thornton, Duigan, Russell, McLean

We will be left with a senior group of: Walker, Betts, Jamison, Warnock/Hampson, Murphy, Gibbs, Kreuzer, Laidler

The current state of our list has the following yet to play a game at AFL level: Buckley, Casboult, Dale, McCarthy, McInness, Bell, Bray, Carter, Lodge, Heyne, Kerr, Mitchell, Rowe, RoK (1 game)

That's potentially 23 of our current list that could be turned over in the next 3 years due to age or lack of opportunity.



So how to address it? I would start with a huge cull this year:

Delist: Lodge, Bell, Bray, Heyne, Carter, Kerr, McLean, White
Trade (If any takers) / Delist (If no takers): Thornton, Bower, Russell, AJ (Even if contracted), Davies, Curnow
Trade (If any takers) /Keep (If no takers):: Warnock, Hampson, Garlett

That would leave a list as follows:

Mids: Judd, Murphy, Gibbs, Carrazzo, Simpson, Lucas, Ellard, RoK, Robinson, Scotland, Collins
Rucks: Kreuzer, Warnock/Hampson (Whoever is kept)
Forwards: Mitchell, Waite, Betts, Garlett, Buckley (Initially), Dale, Armfield
Defenders: Jamison, Watson, Laidler, Tuohy, McCarthy, McInnes, Duigan, Bootsma
Hybrids: Henderson (KPF/KPD), Casboult (Forward/Ruck), Rowe (Forward/Ruck), Yarran, Walker

My thoughts would be to implement the 1 traditional ruck + hybrid model, so this makes a Hammer/Warnock trade ideal and gives us another late 1st or 2nd rounder at worst, which we can use a rookie pick to take a young up and comer, ala Sammy Jacobs. Casboult/Rowe/Mitchell would need to be persevered with as the second ruck. It was interesting hearing Malthouse talk about the 3 tall system at Collingwood in the forward line, and how they play better using this system (Dawes, Cloke, Payne), no reason we can't do the same.

I would focus heavily on midfielders, especially with our first pick and rookie selections. We can do worse than our own backyard at Northern Blues for rookie picks here. Tough ball winners a priority.

Any other pick, Key Position players, no more 190cm flankers who can't play a key position or as a midfielder (on-ball).

The list would be left with minimal exposed depth, but that's the fault of our existing system. The opportunity will now arise to give these kids who haven't played the opportunity and incentive to really develop and earn a best 22 spot.

The bottom line is we have 3-5 years to bring through our future whilst making the most of winning a flag with our existing senior core, if the club doesn't have a succession plan for our senior group we're stuffed as it will take 2-3 years for any recruits this year to start sharing some load, we also need players recruited in the next two years to be ready to take over from the next tier like Murphy who have 5-6 years left also.

I may not be so great at explaining it, but we really aren't in a strong position for sustained success from what I see today. As others have alluded too, we've planned for the Judd era.

PS: DO NOT get Cloke.

Firstly I think we need to accept that our premiership window is slammed shut and there are no quick fixes. Denial and impatience will just cause us to be like Richmond have been for the last 30 years....regularly stuck in "ninthmond" purgatory.

Contested marking and contested possessions are obviously very important and we are poor at both. Try to recruit kids that are good in these areas and aim for a tilt in 2016/17 before Murphy is too old (he turns 30 in 2017). Players drafted before 2005 won't be part of our next premiership tilt IMO.

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interesting. Despite my pessimism, I never thought that our window is shut. Slightly ajar at the beginning of the year but is currently stuck.

I'm gonna get my ass kicked for this but, here goes nuthin...........

Delist:-
ROK
Davies
Kerr
McLean
Levi

Trade:-
Bower (for whatever)
Russell (for whatever)
Kreuzer (Ouch....... your gonna hate me but I reckon out of the three ruckman we have, he would be the one that would attract the most value. Easilly a top pick plus maybe a player. I like the big Kreuzer but he's played maybe 2 good games in the last 2 years and yes i know he's been injured but that's one of the reasons.......... he reminds me a lot like Kosi. Good and talented but injuries have always effected his form. Kreuzer to GWS might get us a top pick plus maybe a talented kid looking to come home)
Gibbs (Back to Adelaide. Haven't been impressed with him all year and for the last 2-3 years he looks like he's going about his football half-assed.

*Granted that we just signed up Kreuzer and Gibbs I doubt we'd be trading them out. But if the right offer came along, I'd entertain the idea.

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dane's trolling again

ROK is a rookie so no big deal to keep him especially if he can play year out.
Davies will stay. Was in finals side last year. People forget very quickly.
Levi fills a spot we desperately need filled and if not injured would be in side now.

I would trade Warnock and Hampson if right deals are there. Make Kruezer No.1 ruck man or nothing.
Bower and Russell gone as we won't get anything for them anyway.
Out: AJ Curnow McLean Bower Russell Thornton White

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trading out a ruck is a no-brainer

jimmae and I got a pasting last year for suggesting Warnock be traded while his currency was at a premium - 206 might not have the same currency but he would be worth a decent draft pick that would bring with it a good midfielder - keep Kreuz and Hammer as they are more durable than 206

plenty of scope to build a war chest to attract a quality ready made player with Brock Tbird JR and a few others on decent money out of contract

McKay has scope to really improve the balance of our list if he is aggressive enough

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I so hope Mckay will be the voice of reason. We desperately need leadership off field as well as on.

Where is Jimmae btw...he came back for a day or two..then disappeared again.
Hope he's ok.

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Ideally:

In:
Beams
Gumbleton
Roberton
Hogan
Tuohy (promoted)

Out:
White
Kerr
Collins
Murphy (Melbourne)
Warnock (GWS)
Russell (Port)
Bower
Rowe
McInnes
The entire rookie list not named Tuohy or Dale

Picks: 4, 11, 29, 36

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