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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:05 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
Well forgive for being a loyal supporter, I guess all loyal supporters must come from the membership department..must be quite a few employees there.


Do you come in on Sundays or are you working from home.?

If you are at the office is anybody else there?!

There's been nothing from the club since Friday night. Interviews have been cancelled, nothing from Ratts or any players.

Seems a bit strange.


So why are you here?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:07 pm 
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Watching footy . TC on the IPhone , kids are at a fundraiser footy match.

So I'm just shootin the shit with you stooge.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:12 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Yeah but you two share a desk down at Visy. :razz:

I just want to know which one is Shane O'Sullivan and which one is Richo!!


Its been a while since i got accused of being from the club. 2002 to be exact.

I am just a joe blow know it all from the outer like the rest of us. Frequently at Northern games with Princes Park Whistler, Big Gartos, Maxi Blue and others. Plenty on this site also know me from the old days playing forum footy matches.
My uncle use to be the property guy at the club but has stopped. He gave me next to no info on the club except who he thought were top blokes.

I am just not a "Sack the coach" type. I reckon Ratts will be gone at seasons end whether i like it or not. We are not getting the desired results with him in charge so I understand why a change up would be worth a shot.

This can be done painlessly if everyone is realistic. The results will do the talking.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:14 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
So what's your point?

We delisted our only straightnerupperer and don't have one to take his place.


That if you take the key forward targets out of any team it is going to have a significant impact. It's ridiculous to think that Collingwood would just continue on seamlessly if you took out Cloke and Dawes, Hawthorn would be the same without Franklin and Roughead etc.

We admittedly don't have the real power forwards (at this stage) that those and some other clubs do, but Waite is a useful forward target who straightens us up. We have also been deprived of the chance of even seeing Rowe and Casboult. Mitchell, until a couple of weeks ago, was injured as well. Of course, they would not be producing miracles but they are at least genuine, natural key forward targets, as opposed to Hampson and Kreuzer who are ruckmen having to play forward when the positions are specialised and not transferable. But they have not been fit so we have not had the chance to see what they've got and it has hurt our forward structure.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:22 pm 
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So what's your point?

We delisted our only straightnerupperer and don't have one to take his place.


That if you take the key forward targets out of any team it is going to have a significant impact. It's ridiculous to think that Collingwood would just continue on seamlessly if you took out Cloke and Dawes, Hawthorn would be the same without Franklin and Roughead etc.

We admittedly don't have the real power forwards (at this stage) that those and some other clubs do, but Waite is a useful forward target who straightens us up. We have also been deprived of the chance of even seeing Rowe and Casboult. Mitchell, until a couple of weeks ago, was injured as well. Of course, they would not be producing miracles but they are at least genuine, natural key forward targets, as opposed to Hampson and Kreuzer who are ruckmen having to play forward when the positions are specialised and not transferable. But they have not been fit so we have not had the chance to see what they've got and it has hurt our forward structure.

Whats stupid is theyre not doing much..
and we have target too except he is 165 cms and the talls rove to him..... kreuzer and hammer have snapped a couple of goals roving to eddie....



Thats what is crazy!!!!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:23 pm 
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club29 wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Yeah but you two share a desk down at Visy. :razz:

I just want to know which one is Shane O'Sullivan and which one is Richo!!


Its been a while since i got accused of being from the club. 2002 to be exact.

I am just not a "Sack the coach" type. I reckon Ratts will be gone at seasons end whether i like it or not. We are not getting the desired results with him in charge so I understand why a change up would be worth a shot.

This can be done painlessly if everyone is realistic. The results will do the talking.


Pretty sure after Having met you at several forum footy games years ago I can vouch for you being a good bloke.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:25 pm 
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It's disappointing it has become the season from hell, literally.
I feel like I will be the only Blues supporter at MCG on Friday night watching, analysing on how the hell we are going to turn this season around. Merely thinking the Collingwood cheers at every goal is making me sick in the guts.

Still back the club to turn this around from round 16 onwards. Surely we won't have such a ridiculous season on the injury and fitness front next season, need to throw the kitchen sink at a key forward.

Ratten's time is running towards the edge. He knows where he sits, despite popular belief he isn't stupid...hoping we don't make another Pagan sort of error again.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:28 pm 
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club29 wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
Yeah but you two share a desk down at Visy. :razz:

I just want to know which one is Shane O'Sullivan and which one is Richo!!


Its been a while since i got accused of being from the club. 2002 to be exact.

I am just a joe blow know it all from the outer like the rest of us. Frequently at Northern games with Princes Park Whistler, Big Gartos, Maxi Blue and others. Plenty on this site also know me from the old days playing forum footy matches.
My uncle use to be the property guy at the club but has stopped. He gave me next to no info on the club except who he thought were top blokes.

I am just not a "Sack the coach" type. I reckon Ratts will be gone at seasons end whether i like it or not. We are not getting the desired results with him in charge so I understand why a change up would be worth a shot.

This can be done painlessly if everyone is realistic. The results will do the talking.


I know and i do don't think your a plant (scarponi is though :lol: ) and I appreciate your level headedness, but FMD I see massive problems and 4 wasted years.

I just want the doctor to stop the pain, take the leg off! Whatever , ill agree to anything.

I too want the admin to hold their nerve and do it properly, but ATM I think I and many others want the pain to stop and one solution is to move on the coach or at least toss the season by sending everyone to surgery who needs it.

We've been sold a LOT of tripe this year and we don't want anymore.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:39 pm 
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I don't like people being accused of being a plant just because they have very differing opinion.Opinions are like ass holes - everyone has one. Getting more and more depressed, crap weather and cant use the footy to cheer me up.....

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:43 pm 
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mikkey wrote:
I don't like people being accused of being a plant just because they have very differing opinion.Opinions are like ass holes - everyone has one. Getting more and more depressed, crap weather and cant use the footy to cheer me up.....


Move to Perth!

Dull but its a spanking day today. Parks everywhere and they are HUGE!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 4:46 pm 
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Always like to read club29's posts.
Yep level headed and quite pragmatic.

I say 3 ruckmen he says not. I can live with that. It looks as though he's right about that atm.
I say Kreuzer is playing unfit and can't even be a forward which he's capable of...remember his first 16 shots at goal in AFL.
Furthermore, Warnock can kick well and compete with bigger ruckmen but he's not in the right condition to play his best in the AFL.
He's had 2 shoulder operations in the preseason and missed the weights and most of the preseason training.
How can anyone expect Warnock to play like he did in that final last year?

Why is Kreuzer playing in such bad condiditon? He can't compete. He tries to though. He shouldn't be playing if he's 75% right.
Time for a complete review.

Like cimm1979 says...just cut the leg off...can't stand any more of this pain.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:00 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
It's disappointing it has become the season from hell, literally.
I feel like I will be the only Blues supporter at MCG on Friday night watching, analysing on how the hell we are going to turn this season around. Merely thinking the Collingwood cheers at every goal is making me sick in the guts.

Still back the club to turn this around from round 16 onwards. Surely we won't have such a ridiculous season on the injury and fitness front next season, need to throw the kitchen sink at a key forward.

Ratten's time is running towards the edge. He knows where he sits, despite popular belief he isn't stupid...hoping we don't make another Pagan sort of error again.



Ratten was the anti Pagan.
The coach with no credentials and no process

Its akin to pulling the coach from the Collegians in the amateurs and making him our coach.

One year at Melbourne and nothing in 3 years???

Thats ludicrous!!!!

And you think we need more of him???

You must be Dog Brown and his famous "Ratts can coach this tema with his eyes closed"

And Sticks fell for that ???

WOW!!!

WOW WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

WOW!!!!

5 years of this?????
At least Pagan had some credits in the top flight...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:00 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
It's disappointing it has become the season from hell, literally.
I feel like I will be the only Blues supporter at MCG on Friday night watching, analysing on how the hell we are going to turn this season around. Merely thinking the Collingwood cheers at every goal is making me sick in the guts.

Still back the club to turn this around from round 16 onwards. Surely we won't have such a ridiculous season on the injury and fitness front next season, need to throw the kitchen sink at a key forward.

Ratten's time is running towards the edge. He knows where he sits, despite popular belief he isn't stupid...hoping we don't make another Pagan sort of error again.



Ratten was the anti Pagan.
The coach with no credentials and no process

Its akin to pulling the coach from the Collegians in the amateurs and making him our coach.

One year at Melbourne and nothing in 3 years???

Thats ludicrous!!!!

And you think we need more of him???

You must be Dog Brown and his famous "Ratts can coach this tema with his eyes closed"

And Sticks fell for that ???

WOW!!!

WOW WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

WOW!!!!

5 years of this?????
At least Pagan had some credits in the top flight...

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:03 pm 
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From someone who doesn't support the cub - well I havent seen any evidence.
From someone who has blatantly admitted they dont want to buy a membership

From someone who isnt a supporter nor a member sure has alot to say.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:09 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
...Ratten's time is running towards the edge. He knows where he sits, despite popular belief he isn't stupid...hoping we don't make another Pagan sort of error again.

Ratten isn't stupid, he just thinks we are...

Hindsight say's we should've "stuck fat" with Wayne Brittain but the biggest Pagan error was re-signing him after the FizzWizz cup.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:14 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
From someone who doesn't support the cub - well I havent seen any evidence.
From someone who has blatantly admitted they dont want to buy a membership

From someone who isnt a supporter nor a member sure has alot to say.

scarp... for a club with 250,000 supporters and only 45 , 0o0 members in a year which they promised top 4 its no surprise you dont get it!!! :thumbsup:

Go back and tell your masters... the club isnt going to use "I am Carlton" as a way to guilt people into throwing away their hard earnt for what they have been dishing out this year!!!

By the way.... Pratt withheld money from the club in Elliots last years and to Collins and Smorgo.
So if its good enough for him.. and he was president and has TWO members of his family on this board .. its good enough for me..!!!

Right????

I do what i want.. whether its say what i think or how i spend my money...

Im not Carlton!!!... how ludicrous is that????

Can you smell what theyre cooking scarps???

Its shit!!!

No passengers... i got off the bus.. but still a hell of alot of passengers on the bus!!!

:lol:

Remember Scarps ... must be alot of people like me who dont wanna go along with their shit...

The club doesnt connect with me anymore... so ill cheerlead them from my living room.

I dont wanna be another number handing them cash to just run the club into the ground.. and im not....

This is Jonestown scarps....!!!.. but we call it Stickstown around here!!!

Take another sip of poison this week... and come back and tell us how its good for us....

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:16 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
j.scarponi wrote:
It's disappointing it has become the season from hell, literally.
I feel like I will be the only Blues supporter at MCG on Friday night watching, analysing on how the hell we are going to turn this season around. Merely thinking the Collingwood cheers at every goal is making me sick in the guts.

Still back the club to turn this around from round 16 onwards. Surely we won't have such a ridiculous season on the injury and fitness front next season, need to throw the kitchen sink at a key forward.

Ratten's time is running towards the edge. He knows where he sits, despite popular belief he isn't stupid...hoping we don't make another Pagan sort of error again.



Ratten was the anti Pagan.
The coach with no credentials and no process

Its akin to pulling the coach from the Collegians in the amateurs and making him our coach.

One year at Melbourne and nothing in 3 years???

Thats ludicrous!!!!

And you think we need more of him???

You must be Dog Brown and his famous "Ratts can coach this tema with his eyes closed"

And Sticks fell for that ???

WOW!!!

WOW WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

WOW!!!!

5 years of this?????
At least Pagan had some credits in the top flight...


Pratt was boss when Ratts' was appointed wasn't he ?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:20 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
j.scarponi wrote:
It's disappointing it has become the season from hell, literally.
I feel like I will be the only Blues supporter at MCG on Friday night watching, analysing on how the hell we are going to turn this season around. Merely thinking the Collingwood cheers at every goal is making me sick in the guts.

Still back the club to turn this around from round 16 onwards. Surely we won't have such a ridiculous season on the injury and fitness front next season, need to throw the kitchen sink at a key forward.

Ratten's time is running towards the edge. He knows where he sits, despite popular belief he isn't stupid...hoping we don't make another Pagan sort of error again.



Ratten was the anti Pagan.
The coach with no credentials and no process

Its akin to pulling the coach from the Collegians in the amateurs and making him our coach.

One year at Melbourne and nothing in 3 years???

Thats ludicrous!!!!

And you think we need more of him???

You must be Dog Brown and his famous "Ratts can coach this tema with his eyes closed"

And Sticks fell for that ???

WOW!!!

WOW WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!

WOW!!!!

5 years of this?????
At least Pagan had some credits in the top flight...


Pratt was boss when Ratts' was appointed wasn't he ?

As caretaker iirc... Sticks was president when the club hired him as full time coach

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:20 pm 
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I have no problem with ratten making that top four statement.
I don't think anyone could have imagined all our KPP would have been wiped out when that statement was made/


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:27 pm 
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j.scarponi wrote:
I have no problem with ratten making that top four statement.
I don't think anyone could have imagined all our KPP would have been wiped out when that statement was made/

scarponi he would have been closer to the mark if he said bottom 4 !!!

but he has misread so much
this club has misread so much

its not about injuries
its about connection
its about memberships
its about team planning
drafting
development
strategies
media nouse

where are they today????

in the bunker????

how antiquated is that????

@#$%&! hire a spin doctor if you have to .. but this passive agressive shit .. is just fuc ked p!!!... thats what it feels like... passive aggresive!!!

its like theyre screwing us on purpose by not showing any leadership
people wanna know what the clubs thinking...

crickets

pathetic!!!

and u want me to give the bozos money????

get the hell away!!!! :lol:

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