Pathetic.

Give me Malthouse any day of the week over Ratts - I hated Malthouse as a coach, arrogance wise , and despised him as a player

But we need a no holds barred type approach at Carlton, we have wasted a 3 plus years under Ratts

Even bloody Essendon* realised they had stuffed up with Knights, paid him out his last year and got Hird and Thompson into the fold

Our club is still living in the past

They would still be in a lot better position than we are at the moment. They actually also have backup for players who go down, and solid structures and systems meaning injuries in general don't have as great an impact as they do with us.

Also if there was no Dawes or Cloke, they have a lot more actual KPP's on our list than we do to work around it. They also don't have our other deficiency of few hard in and under players.

Comparing us to them is a joke, this isn't the 80s anymore they are miles ahead of us as a club on and off the field, and regardless of whether you hate them or not, we could learn a lot from the way they have gone about rebuilding the club from the ground up since Eddie took charge.

Essendon*'s problem for a while was not enough spending in the football department, and were conservative in their spending, but this developed a rather big war chest, which they are using now.

Essendon* never fell away off-field like we did, they just stuffed up hanging onto Sheedy and believing in his BS for too long. Put the club back 5 years.

I doubt he is.

Some of what he says is pretty good. Other stuff is a bit of a stretch in my opinion. Good to have him here all the same.

I don't know if you have realised yet but we have six KPP out injured..three of them are under 20 years old and two of them struggling to get out of NB.

I am not sure if you have studied Collingwood's list or not but they also have nine KPP - and any injury they had was no more than 1-3 weeks other than O'Keefe.

If you take all of Collingwoods leading six KPP off the list, how do you think they will travel?

They do have Swan and string of top10 picks. Lets face facts - it is very rare that a no.1 pick turns out to be the best in any draft.

I don't think bringing up no.1 picks does anything for the argument. No.1 picks just limit the risk of drafting a player that isnt going to get 100 games.

Yeah but you two share a desk down at Visy.

I just want to know which one is Shane O'Sullivan and which one is Richo!!

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I hope Essendon* folds.

But there is more to it than their own pure statistical output. Both straighten Collingwood up, providing legitimate forward targets to whom the midfielders can kick. Both are natural forwards who can make the right runs, position themselves correctly etc. They might not be kicking bags of goals (especially Dawes) but they give Collingwood's midfielders and smalls targets to play off.

Take them out and replace them with Jolly/Wood and Goldsack as the key forwards and then let's see how they go.

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Formerly Blues-Back2003.

Malthouse has passed his used by date - not the age criteria you want for a career coach.

10 years ago, yes obviously -- not now. I'll be livid if he was hired. Just looking for a final pension cheque.

I didn't know about that! Thanks for the hot tip!!

So what's your point?

We delisted our only straightnerupperer and don't have one to take his place.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I still think he would be better than Ratts, also who is to say he couldn't coach into his 60s? Other coaches in other sports have done it, or do all Australian men go senile once they hit the age of 60?

Personally I think Mark Williams would be an excellent choice, a bit younger as well and would love to be in the limelight in Melbourne.

Either that or get a senior guy as a mentor and a younger gun assistant as the main coach.

Regardless of what the setup ends on being come October or so, I am confident we will be in a better spot off-field than we are now.

I don't think he is a troll, he provides an alternate view point.

One I don't agree with for the most part, and doesn't seem to be getting a groundswell of support for his views either.

Of course not - in other forums I know I would. This forum is so negative driven it will amuse me to see the support of the club when it is flying again. The arguements are so one sided it is laughable.

The very fact of not renewing membership if Ratten is re appointed, is depressing to say the least. What can you say other than bugger off you fair weather.

He's from the membership dept.

Silly me.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Well forgive for being a loyal supporter, I guess all loyal supporters must come from the membership department..must be quite a few employees there.

scarponi

i gave my membership to the heart foundation this year.

why do i have to give it to carlton???
hate the direction
lack of foresight

and they dont connect with supporters anymore.

i love carlton... but it doesnt mean i have to feed the animals in the zoo...

when i feel a connection ill be back....

thats all...!!!


tv is ok...

a big steak a nice big red opened.. its warm and a huge tv screen
if the club doesnt understand if they cant connect its a tv event now too... i dont have to watch it in a small black n whte tv box

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Do you come in on Sundays or are you working from home.?

If you are at the office is anybody else there?!

There's been nothing from the club since Friday night. Interviews have been cancelled, nothing from Ratts or any players.

Seems a bit strange.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Don't know what that is, don't want to know..bottom of the barrell stuff.