Excuse me, you either enter a debate or not...either way I am unphased. I take pposts at face value - hardly look at names in all honesty - dont really care your all faceless. I am big enough to take care of myself - trust me. So thanks for the advice.

It's not only about the quality of your players but also having the right balance (eg speed, height, strength, skill sets etc) and age mix within the squad. For example we obviously lack quality KP forwards. Either they have yet to develop or are injury prone. Not a great recipe for success when you should be in a position to contend. That is why a player such as Henderson could hold the key to short term success (won't be this year). If he can be our quality KP forward, then this may resolve some of our structural issues. Obviously, this is only one small part of the equation.

Hendo at CHF to help rebuild our structure, if we don't trade for one. Gotta have a bonafide CHF.
I'm convinced its not Kreuzer well not until he holds his marks and regains his speed.
Waite would have to be the 3rd tall role because his availability is questionable.
So need a FF too...unless that's Kreuzer.

I find it hard to say we don't have talent. There, I said it.
I am still convinced the list is good, just need to replace about 15 on our list...I think.
Haven't seen many off them play AFL.
I guess we're going to see them in the reaming games.

I am devastated. Cannot believe what has happened to us in 2012.
Devastated...I want to give up footy...hurts too much and for too long.

Go Blues

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We are all hurting but don't be devastated as this is now our chance to do things properly. This will now give us a chance to contend in the appropriate manner. There are basic fundamentals in winning premierships and I don't think we were implementing those fundamentals ie game plan(s), KP forwards etc. Tactics play a huge part in the modern game and you will be left behind if you are not up to speed. We haven't been up to speed. I still believe that with some tweaking and change in coach we can reload and have another tilt in the next few years.

AGree with WOW this massive correction after four years of staedy improvement is probably the best thing that has happened to the club for the long term. I think we can have another tilt next year - I have no doubt in my mind. Lessons learnt from this season will be enormous.

Scarponi you are the worst judge of a football side I have ever encountered. Meatloaf sang well on grand final day. Gillard is a great prime minister. Ballieu a fantastic premier. Stosur is a good grass courter. Black caviar is a stayer.........

6 of those players were top 20 picks in the national draft and many were rated by recruiters other than ours.
They had the potential to become very good AFL footballers.
Players have to be developed. They dont do it for themselves.

I have a question for you. How many players on our list have developed as footballers in the past 5 years.
Dont tell me about physical improvements which are a result of Cordy and his team. How many have actually improved under our coaching panel ie kicking, decision making, skills in general.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

It annoys me when media people like Matthews say we've improved every year since Ratten took over prior to 2012, therefore he's ok. Organic growth from kids to mature agers doesn't = quality development.

Lucas was better as a first year player, as was Joseph, even Browne (remember him?)
Kruezer has gone backwards, as have Russell, Bower, Jamison, Gibbs, Curnow, Garlett etc etc

I have no doubt we have the talent. We also have weaknesses.

I have said it before do NOT judge the players on what they are producing at the moment. They are confused, unhappy and severely lacking in confidence.

A change in coach and game style will make a dramatic change.

This years trade period and draft will also very important.

At our best we have:

B: Touhy Jamison Laidler
HB: Yarran Watson Duigan
C: Simpson Gibbs Lucas
HF: Robinson Henderson Walker
F: Betts Waite Kruezer
Foll: Warnock Judd Murphy

Also: Carrazzo Ellard Garlett Armfield Collins Scotland

Young and Developing: Bootsma Buckley Dale McInnes Mitchell Casboult McCarthy OKeefe Davies Rowe

Need to try and trade Hampson and also recruit a couple of big bodied mids.

Get rid of Russell, AJ, Curnow, McLean, White, Kerr & Thornton.

Some smart recruiting, confidence and a good game plan along with a coach that will get everyone going in the same direction will make a massive difference.

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how does it make everyone feel to see spuds like myers howlett and lonergan playing like stars

while our fringe players go backwards at a rapid rate. it says a lot about our coaching and development staff

it's gone horribly wrong, confidence.... it's hard to gain and easy to lose and if the coaching and fitness staff cant get it back

then they can jog on sooner rather than later!

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Myers always had talent, change of management did him wonders

We have 4 blokes who you know what you are going to get week in week out
Judd Murph Carrotts and Scotland
The other 40 odd are up and down like yoyos

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All but four of your 'best' team could have played last night, if thats our best in 2013 then its another long year ahead, unless our new supercoach creates a gameplan suitable for players who cant kick or mark.

Only in your opinion as results say otherwise up to 2011, even with the large injury list. We executed well last season. 15 other coaches tend to follow each year and then try to improve on it until someone goes in another direction. No doubt he coached well last year despite your agenda. Can only point to the scoreboard. Even in games we lost we were highly competitive never belted. We had a fighting spirit.

Last year is not this year though I will agree he's has it horribly wrong this year and will be spectator for it next year. You get it that wrong and misread a situation then you pay the price. Once again we can only point to the scoreboard but for different reasons.

As long as MM brings Cloke with him.

You'd surely be the last poster to tell anyone that.

Oh so happy. You forgot Hocking, Jetta, Di Wholio, Reimers, Hardingham and one or 2 others. All ordinary footballers in my eyes

Interesting that the bombers have only beaten one other current top 8 side so far this year.

There's no doubt we have the talent to match it with most in the top 8... we were a kick away from a prelim last year

Too bad that talent doesn't extent to the coaching group

If Ratts is retained next year, which team from 2012 will he attempt to copy? maybe whoever wins the GF...




Oh! and... Batheras

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I agree Blue tongue. Being able to perform close to your best each week comes under the talent banner and that is where we fall down and the kicking and marking thing is an issue. Even if we have good games skillwise it seems only a matter of time before they fall away when the players start to flake out. No excuses or sugar coating for some of the foot passing and ball handling errors last night. By our better more experienced players too.