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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:50 pm 
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dooky wrote:
What did Icke say to you the psychologist? PM if necessary...


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:50 pm 
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aramari wrote:
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There was more too it.

He basically ripped the stats off Hyde and basically took over. This was the last straw for Hyde.

Even if you think he is not coaching well you would probably not make a scene on match day. This has an impact on people around the club particularly the players.


If true that's outrageous!


Ratten is now running scared and trying to show he is strong. Too late but he is desperate.

The scariest thing for Ratten is that he will go from $500k a year to $50k for coaching a local EFL side.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:51 pm 
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Blueboy74 wrote:
Ockham Razor on the money.

Page 53 of the Malthouse thread.
I'm not doubting Ockham Razor's info but Barrett repeating it isn't really confirmation. He probably lifted it from here in the first place.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:52 pm 
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Interesting. Just got home from Womens Basketball (Opals v Brazil) and was sitting behind S.Icke. Asked him about Ratten and Carlton. Lets just say he wasn't complimentary.


Icke isn't exactly Mother Teresa though Psyc.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:54 pm 
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mikey wrote:
dooky wrote:
What did Icke say to you the psychologist? PM if necessary...


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In all fairness there wasn't much detail and a quick chat but he basically said he is very unpopular amongst staff and players.

Made a comment about the great job of getting Brock McLean. I assume this was done initially without Ickes knowledge.

I know for a fact that several senior players cannot stand him and this has gone on for a while and is now getting worse.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:54 pm 
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aramari wrote:
Can Eater wrote:
There was more too it.

He basically ripped the stats off Hyde and basically took over. This was the last straw for Hyde.

Even if you think he is not coaching well you would probably not make a scene on match day. This has an impact on people around the club particularly the players.


If true that's outrageous!

Are you serious? If that happened then Ratten is out of control.
Maybe Hyde stole his lollies. :wink:

This is just getting worse, the worrying thing is we have so many players coming out of contract and important players such as Warnock and Yarran yet to re-sign. If the place is becoming a basketcase then some might just leave.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:55 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
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Interesting. Just got home from Womens Basketball (Opals v Brazil) and was sitting behind S.Icke. Asked him about Ratten and Carlton. Lets just say he wasn't complimentary.


Icke isn't exactly Mother Teresa though Psyc.


I know and he can alienate people but the facts are adding up!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 10:56 pm 
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My gut feeling is that someone leaked this to Barrett to run with it. There aren't a lot of stories of his re: Carlton, but when he does them, they're usually well above his usual paltry strike rate.

Question is - to discredit Cordy or to discredit Ratten? I didn't watch the show, so not sure how it was spun...any help on this front?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:01 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
mikey wrote:
dooky wrote:
What did Icke say to you the psychologist? PM if necessary...


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In all fairness there wasn't much detail and a quick chat but he basically said he is very unpopular amongst staff and players.

Made a comment about the great job of getting Brock McLean. I assume this was done initially without Ickes knowledge.

I know for a fact that several senior players cannot stand him and this has gone on for a while and is now getting worse.

Sorry, but several senior players cant stand who? Ratten?
I take the Brock McLean comment was being sarcastic.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:03 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
My gut feeling is that someone leaked this to Barrett to run with it. There aren't a lot of stories of his re: Carlton, but when he does them, they're usually well above his usual paltry strike rate.

Question is - to discredit Cordy or to discredit Ratten? I didn't watch the show, so not sure how it was spun...any help on this front?

Where's Wookie?
Not sure who he was trying to discredit, but the story started with more bad news for Carlton.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:07 pm 
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Barrett is a flog but he's good at what he does. He knows the tide is turning at Carlton and many supporters are calling for Rattens head (im not one of them). He's going to add whatever fuel he can to the fire because it's only going to turn more supporters against him and in the end it will probably cost Ratten his job. Sadly there is only so much negative attention directed at the coach that the board will take and they're out to get him.

Whether he and Cordy had a dispute or not at the end of the day as long as they act like professionals there shouldn't be an issue at all. There at disputes in every workplace at times.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:07 pm 
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Please PM me, too, pleeeease. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:20 pm 
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Can Eater wrote:
There was more too it.

He basically ripped the stats off Hyde and basically took over.


Well, Ratts does love his stats...


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:23 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
aramari wrote:
Can Eater wrote:
There was more too it.

He basically ripped the stats off Hyde and basically took over. This was the last straw for Hyde.

Even if you think he is not coaching well you would probably not make a scene on match day. This has an impact on people around the club particularly the players.


If true that's outrageous!


Ratten is now running scared and trying to show he is strong. Too late but he is desperate.

The scariest thing for Ratten is that he will go from $500k a year to $50k for coaching a local EFL side.

The scary thing is that he is getting 500k full stop....

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:29 pm 
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And to add to this, a long serving well respected trainer at the club has also had a falling out with Ratts earlier this year. Senior players are not happy with Ratts especially Gibbs. Also mentioned MM at the club next year is almost a certainty. The drums are beating louder and louder!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:31 pm 
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I've heard that Cordy is pretty ace.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:33 pm 
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ACHILLES wrote:
And to add to this, a long serving well respected trainer at the club has also had a falling out with Ratts earlier this year. Senior players are not happy with Ratts especially Gibbs. Also mentioned MM at the club next year is almost a certainty. The drums are beating louder and louder!


You can also add Waite, Walker, Simpson and Murphy to that list.
Plus a few others that i'm not 100% sure of so i won't name them


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:34 pm 
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ACHILLES wrote:
Senior players are not happy with Ratts especially Gibbs.

His recently re-signed contract says differently.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:34 pm 
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achilles again your full of it. where is your substance!

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 11:37 pm 
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You want source with that JD?!
You know what I know!


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