DocSherrin wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
But your arguement is and has been that Sticks is not doing the right thing with regards to increasing membership and long term sustainability of the club - Smorgan has been at it a long time at the doggies
and is regarded by many as a good president - yet their crowd numbers are down - their membership is down therefore their revenue will be down - Are the doggies calling for his head - their team lacks onfield success which is what we are all ultimately striving for - But there are no calls for his head - Why????
and the answer is simple and it is what I have been saying for a very long time - Football revenue is governed by winning - Win and they will come supporters , members and sponsors
When Eddie took over a broke Collingwood - he set about taking them further into debt to increase football department spend - recruited in a good management team and coach and got the side winning again and they have basically been up and about for 10 -15 years now - So with onfield success comes more members more spectators more sponsors more dollars . Its an old saying successs brings success
If we had of knocked off Essendon* and kept that early season form going our membership would have blown the 50k mark easily . Moving Sticks on is not the problem it is getting the football team winning again that is the problem . And Sticks has given the football department every bit of ammunition they need for it to be successful and I am sure he will do what is right for the club in the end
I'm not convinced you've been reading this thread thoroughly. Our revenue isn't governed by memberships. I couldn't give a stuff how many members we have. They don't bring in the dollars. In terms of revenue for the club it goes 1. AFL TV rights distribution 2. Corporate Sponsors 3. DISTANCE 4. Memberships...our debt is being helped along by Bruce Mathieson. Without him - you'd be receiving a letter in the mail asking you to write a cheque and help pay off the debt.
I'm happy to talk about the Bulldogs if you want. They've reduced their board numbers, appointed on a needs basis (see Chris Grant), have managed to shore up sponsors, gained government backing without significant spend at their end, are a quarter through their 'Bulldoze the Debt' campaign and have roughly $3 million to go, and have meaningful partnerships with the community (of which there is a Community portfolio on the board). They interfere far less in operational matters than the Carlton board,
In terms of supporters - they're a long way behind Carlton. In terms of members, they're 15,000 behind. That's not bad in the scheme of things. How many more supporters do you think Carlton have?
I'm not suggesting anyone get sacked (not really applicable to board anyway), even though I'd like for Sticks to hurry up and find a successor because his passion and talents can be used more effectively elsewhere. There are others who have clearly passed their used by date. I want the best people on the board, not those who are only there because they are financial backers of the club, or are there for an ego trip.
Just as we recruit for playing talent - we should be constantly on the lookout for Board talent. People such as Andy Penn, Ian Herman, Stephen and Mark Kerr...'Frank Dardew' commented earlier in this thread about having
'an advisory group to the board of a number of young up and coming businessmen who could be a sounding board to the board and who could ultimately be potential board members for the future' In the 80's and 90's, we had this through a number of coteries. They aren't there any more. The club has actually 'lost' more of this ilk of member than they have gained it. So many of us on here can see the worrying signs. You just can't look at what you've got. You have to look at what you don't have and what can be improved upon.
No I have read it perfectly well - You are saying that Sticks is doing nothing to secure an ongoing revenue stream and saying he is not the man for the job - You are stating if it wasn't for Bruce and Dicks money we sould be stuffed - It is quite clear that you are not happy with the direction Sticks is taking the club
What I have been saying is onfield success brings in dollars from all sorts of sources - Everyone likes being associated with winners - winning attracts more and better sponsors - more merchandise - more of everything .
Recent years have shown he who spends the most wins - this is exactly what Sticks and Swan are doing they are increasing the football department spend to try and bring onfield success with I assume the intention of then attracting back disgruntled members and supporters such as yourself .
to me sitting on the outside here in Sydney there appears to be a plan in place the fact that the onfield performance has turned that plan to shit is another story .
Sticks maybe reluctant to move people on but he has been involved in the removal of Brittain, Pagan- Angwin, Fev - Mitchell - Whitnal- Campereale -Smorgan and they have completely overhauled the coaching department moving on Lappin - Montgomery etc - Sticks appears to be on the reluctant side and gives the impression that these decisions way heavily on him but when you look at who he has moved on he has been quite ruthless
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