I'm all over Juddy and always have been, but I'm concerned that he has lost faith in whatever the objectives of the group are.

Stinker tonight, but FMD, can we please try and win a game without him being really good?.

We were shit tonight.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Point taken but I couldn't give a toss about the non football aspects of his life.

We are spiraling downward with no end in sight, he's our captain and he is giving us nothing. In a major form slump and giving no on field leadership.

If he doesn't care about where we are at, then quite simply he can @#$%&! off and let the club use his $1m salary in a much better fashion.

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We are on our way back...

I keep hearing 1.0m salary.

Who say's?

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Won a premiership, a Norm Smith, 2 Brownlows. Gorgeous wife, new born child, owns a growing slice of Melbourne's nightlife (and I tihnk a few slices of Perth's real estate market also, from memory).

Where's the buy-in for Judd? It's not the same that motivates a bloke like Robbo to get out of bed in the morning.

That's one of the bigger questions of Ratts and those around him - is he good enough a man manager to get Juddy on board?, and buy in to what is trying to be achieved?

Worrying that I'm thinking that about the captain of the club.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

True, you can never blame the umpires for losing. I certainly live by the mantra that you make your own luck BUT..... there's no shadow of a doubt that the umpiring was in the favour of West Coast.

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Awful isn't it.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

I'm not suggesting that Joseph is solely to blame for the loss. And again, Jamo probably should have got the free anyway for an arm chop. It's not always a mistake either - had we been chasing the game at the time and therefore been needing to take a few risks, you couldn't blame the player for doing just that.

But it was a poor (yet easily avoidable) mistake at a crucial time in the game. We were ahead at the time; there was no need to take the risky option of bringing the ball back inside when a kick long down the line (even if it ended up going straight to a WCE player) would have been the safer and more desirable choice. Joseph has been around long enough now to know that, unless his target is obviously free, he is not skilful enough to successfully centre a ball to a marked player some distance away in the middle of a tight last quarter. It's about knowing your limitations and executing the fundamentals well and on this occasion, he failed to do that.

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Obvioulsy our players just arent drilled correctly.

coach !!!!

The guy should be sitting 2 rows back from where he sits at games.

This guy is harming our team each day hes around.

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The difference tonight was NicNat, Darling & Cox.
Thought there was some pretty dubious umpiring decisions but never blame them for losing. There was NO 50m penalty against Judd, it was lame. Ratts would have been more out of line than the umpiring for dragging him. Soft!

Army, Duigan, Ellard, Watson were encouraging for us. Carrazzo certainly returned well & though never a fan, we've missed him more than I ever would have thought pre-season when I was hoping we'd have others pushing up for selection for his replacement.
Simmo went hard when required & creates scores, don't know about the down hill skier reference.
Garlett did more than previous efforts.
Warnock could not mark above his shoulders in the WAFL, nothing has changed. Not strong enough or cannot impact a game around the ground though our best tap ruckman, and for the reason he was traded for. Perhaps not 100% again. Hammer is the man to go against NicNat.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing but we could have lived with Sauce as our #1 ruck through the rookie draft.

AJ has not impressed lately and the weather gave him an opportunity to play again. He's a midfield tagger or nothing it seems. 2yr contract with 1 not being required it appears. Continue to play Watson, Touhy, Lucas, Bootsma, or others like McInnes, Kerr, Dale, Buckley and see what they can offer.

Welcome bye. Still hopefully a finals chance beckons though relying on others now. Full squad and we can mix it at the pointy end (Hawthorn still the query). It's that type of year but whether we have enough runs on the board will be the key and find form (and a functioning fwd line) in time.

Wrong, wrong and wrong.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Answer to that is simple
We dont have enough players who we can rotate to the middle
We have 3 or 4 who should be taking their turn but dont and why that is I dont know

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Figured some weeks ago we were not yet good enough to seriously challenge for the flag so more inclined to look for the positives.

We were the better side for much of the game and for the first time for ages fought back to hit the front. The third quarter was possibly the best we have played since the Collingwood game.

Home crowd effect on umpiring - what was that worth? If your answer is 2 goals or more then even though you may be correct in fact you end up in politically incorrect territory.

WC are very hard to beat there. Everyone knows that. Here in WA I know plenty of WA supporters who really only rate their 'away' wins. Dockers supporters the same. Except for their derby of course.

In the old VFL days lots of sides had home ground advantages so it is nothing new. Being 'competitive' usually means win at home, toss of the coin at neutral venue, honourable loss away... Usually need to wallop sides to win away when there is a big home crowd advantage.

Our set shots for goal were pretty good tonight and kept us in the game at several crucial stages. Big positive difference from previous weeks.

Judd couldn't grip the ball at all. Clearly something not right with him.

Can see that I am in the minority but I thought Joseph had a real crack. Should never have been pinged for the holding free. That was gutsy play. The pass to Jamison that resulted in the turnover goal was by no means the worst pass on the night. Could go either way from here for Joseph. Has the endeavour.

I thought that it was significant that the game turned in our favour when Garlett and Betts went onto the ball midway through the second quarter.

In hindsight Hampson rucking instead of Warnock might have been a better choice.

Another very encouraging game from Watson and Duigan.

Clearly several players playing injured and will benefit from the bye.

Looks to me like a side that is one pre-season and maybe 2 quality picks away from being good enough to pinch a flag.

Just saw a replay of Judd's 50 meter penalty. What are the umpires thinking seriously.
Joseph lacks the necessary concentration and discipline of an AFL footballer... Maybe Carrots can coach him because Carrots is the most disciplined with superior concentration levels.
Watson was good
Gibbs intent was very good and needs another game in the middle.
Scotland looked a little rusty - but what a fantastic warrior.
Enter Laidler & Waite ASAP.
Joseph and McLean thanks for your fill in roles.

Tonight showed how terrible the Warnock and McLean deals have been.

With the sub rule ruckman must do more than tap the ball down.
Should of kept Jacobs at all costs. Big mistake on both fronts.McLean isnt up to it in big games

And Watson looks a different player at AFL level

Put games into Kerr, McInness, Buckley etc
These guys may provide a spark and step it up

What are the chances of that happening with this current MC.

None. Absolutely none

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You dont need games into Buckley but you should into Kerr and McIness

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Really disappointed playing injured players.

Doing the team and players such as Warnock, Judd, Yarran, Kruezer no good at all.

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why are our players tweeting about the umpiring for @#$%&! sake. bad look.

grow up, harden up, win games that are meant to be won, kick goals that are meant to be kicked, hold tackles, dont drop chest marks, dont miss targets and just get on with it you pack of gen y pooftas!

i kept thinking how well drilled west coast were the whole game. they just do the basics so well nearly all of the time. we do it when we feel like it ......every now and then. like, lets say 2 quarters in 9 weeks.