They all do....

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I thought we were all over them and I'm at a bit of a loss as to how we lost.

I will say the last quarter goals to them seemed very easy , but still we were the better side.

One outcome is that I now hate this mOb of Geelong cauliflower and look forward to their years in the wilderness.

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Only caught bits and pieces of first half (had visitors) but all of the second.

Much better effort but conversion/forward structure killed us.

Tough to swallow knowing we will likely lose our next 3 games.

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Anyone but Essendon*.

Even Collingwood.

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So you thought he did well in the ruck. He was hopeless tonight. Blind freddy could see he was a huge liability to the side tonight. Even in the ruck. His tap straight down the throat of a Geelong player in their forward line was amateur stuff. The difference between his good and bad games is too great. If Waite was fit, I am pretty confident he would be dropped.

Very "common".

It's called racism.

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you can call it that if you like but their extremes are extraordinary Look at Buddys last month

Their good is very good their bad is ordinary
You need that brillance to be the icing on the cake not the be all and end all

Probably cop abuse or banning but facts are facts its there for all to see

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This!

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I don't believe he was referring to anybody's race at all, GWS. 'They' are all small forwards. That 'they' happen to be indigenous boys was not mentioned or in my mind, suggested. It's a big call to accuse someone of being racist based on nothing more than a guess. There has been no history of it on his part and therefore you are jumping at shadows.

Poor form on your part IMO.

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Armfield clearly our best tonight
McLean had a go but he's too sloppy. Needs replacing by Carrots
Judd is no longer a major AFL player
Garlett was better, still lacks confidence
Warnock fantastic in ruck
Hampson disappointing against a gun backline
Kreuzer better off being mothballed if it will help him for 2013.
Betts worked his arse off.
Watson surprises / impresses with his desperation, reading of play and decision making. Ability to stop leads and halve marking contests against quality will expose him in near term.

Nope. He's not denying what he referred to. Is buddy franklin a small forward? Is Walker? Is Yarran?

He's not even disputing it BS

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Actually this was happening all night and has been an issue for weeks where our mids are still not getting the right position. It doesnt matter who the ruckman is if no one is where the ball is going. ruckmen are trained to hit a ball a certain way to a certain position. Its a mids job to be where the ball is going to land. They almost never are this year. And it doesnt matter if its Warnock, Kreuzer or Hampson who is rucking.

You also appear to have missed a considerable amount of his good ruckwork tonight as well. To say he cost us the game when clearly 9 points from gettable shots did, is slightly misguided.

And since Hampson and Waite both spent considerable time forward together when Kreuzer and Warnock have alternately decided to be injured I have to respectfully disagree.

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A lot made of the last quarter, but the ascendency swayed much earlier than that.

Absolutely all over them early, but went from something like 3.0 to 4.5.

Last two goals of the second half come from 50's. Even early I was worried that once again we weren't scoring goals through midfielders, or set plays. It was once again due mainly to individual brilliance from Betts.

Effort cant be disputed, but that creates a different type of flatness from a supporter which is along the lines of 'well we tried, and we still werent that good'.

Geelong have been middle of the road all year, and reality is we really did not better than the Bulldogs did against them. We still have plenty out but they to were missing JPod, Menzel, Christensen and Varcoe. Wojo playing his first game of the year, and Hawkins coming off a small medical procedure.

Good signs from Watson, Bootsma, Mclean, Collins, Duigan and Armfield. Thought Gibbs deserves some credit, as SJ looked dangerous early especially on anything that got out the back. Like Henderson foward, but he tired. Garlett looked on early but fell out the game. Good to see Simpson back to his old self.

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Yes, Collins looked sharp, and avoided tripping over himself tonight. Duigan was much better this time round.

No GWS is correct but I dont consider it racism if they turn up to play look out but if they dont it can get ugly and I know other players can be the same but most other players dont have their freakish skills and brilliance so when they go missing it hurts you bad because they entire sides performance is geared around them lighting the place up

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Definitely one that got away.

If Warnock played whole game im certain we would of won. If the umpires was fair we would of ran away with it. Brock was robbed the most followed shortly by our key fwds who were pushed or getting their arms chopped all night. The holding the ball rule & the advantage rule were misinterpreted on our behalf all night.

Duigan played well and he controls the back well, in the first he ran 40m to pat Watson on the head for winning a contest. He continuously left his opponent to help out when needed.
Boots again was good. Does his job. Inexperience shows out at times but thats expected.
Collins showed promise. Early on he looked exhausted after each contest though resulting in his set shots going astray. Happy though.
Gibbs played well on Johnson.

Joseph was good at times but to often was very costly.
Hampson hurt us, if he had clean hands for half the night we would of won.
Walks disposal & goal hunger hurt us also. Too often his efforts were wasted.
& finally even though most may disagree, as good as he is Judd had costly turnovers tonight all over the ground whether its was fumbling/dropping simple marks in defence, missing easy goals or clearing the ball to Geelong advantage.

So trade them because they're too brilliant when they have a good game?? Your reasoning is very odd.

Yarran woeful. Lacked intensity. Coach needs to fire him up
Hampson woeful taps the ball goalside and gives away free. Coaching again
Missed handbills in close. Coaching
Lack of forward structure. Must try watson as a deep forward. Coaching
Watson and bootys performance demonstrate match committees mismanagement of selection.
Kreuzer and judd not fit. Have we the courage to rest them Next week giving them a double break and reloading for the last half of the year?

For the players we had out, it wasnt such a bad display.
Nothing more to say except bad kicking = bad football.
We can kiss teh Top 8 goodbye.
It ll only get worse from her on in...

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