keogh wrote:
Moshee the word is inference
Something is wrong within the club.
Its been like this for a long time.
Last year we just wall papered over the cracks
Ratten met his KPI by smashing a pathetic Essendon*
BFD
The first thing you do is get rid of Kernahan and get someone whose has experience in looking after a multi million dollar company. Knows about getting ahead of the pack and pricks the imaginory bubble which gets people within the club thinking outside the Carlton culture
The fish rots from the head
Have a look at how Sticks got the top job
Have a look at how Ratten got his job
How easy it was
It inspires mediocrity
It filters down
Into the players veins
There simply wasnt any pride because ultimately the majority know they will play Friday night
Dont want to go on about Gibbs too much but seriously he has been pathetic this year and I reckon we havent got what we wanted from him so far.
So he gets a two year deal
!@#$%&
The players are too soft dont hurt enough after a loss
The coach says at 3 quarter time just go out and play footy
I say !@#$%& again
That is unbelievale form a senior AFL coach
How much more of this shit do we supporters have to put up with
Many supporters have blind faith
I dont. I know something is wrong and the frist thing you do is get a person who wont put up with this shit
Keogh and Moshe25
Moshe firstly excellent post re you authentic loyalty to the Blues...an impressive read & apologies if I pressed a few buttons - not the intention
BUT to both of you - I do not understand why you think the Blues are in a crisis.....For mine a crisis is not 3 losses in 4 regardless of injuries, and simply feels to me its very easy to jump the gun when signs point south.....
I also struggle to this point to cease respect of Sticks and Rats as champions of our club firstly, as they are champions of our club, and have earnt the right to expect loyalty & trust when the chips are down. I cant at this stage throw our own to the dogs when its not all onwards & upwards.....They are there because they also Bleed Blue & to drop confidence in them without just cause (in my mind) I am not ready to turn on these guys or as quoted lose faith that they can influence the minds of the guys lacing up their boots every weekend.....
I dont think it really matters how they were appointed or how long they have been there - I dont at this point see them as having failed the CFC....I see things as we have for many reasons had a very poor couple of months but hardly rates trashing them as failures...They have been and will continue to bust their guts for the club....
Its very easy to jump on the "this win/ loss is not meeting my expectations!" band wagon and want change.....These guys have financially improved the club....On fields results have (across time) been relatively as expected.....I dont beleive any other coach would have achieved much more with the list we have with respect to both talent and experience.....Just my view but I dont think our list has been good enough or mature enough to be any better than we have achieved to date.....(last 4 or 5 weeks the exception not the norm)
For mine the juries still out and it would be too early to go for jugulars likely through desperation or frustration in an attempt to steady the ship. If decisions are made pending YTG results that end careers at the club fine however at this point in time in my view would be potentially unneccessary and not warranted....
Cool there are better Coaches than Ratts, and yes the buck stops with him, however is he measured across weeks, months or YE results.....Despite constant criticism he has delivered on realistic expectations. He has not yet failed.....
We could easily change coaches and presidents and actually go backwards.....
Yes this is a little about faith in guys that are born and bread Blues but also with a bit more respect that they have not yet failed to a ppoint that its arguable whether anyone else could or would have performed any better with the list up until now.
Are we over estimating our list?
Are we over estimating our timelines on what is possible?
I think we are on both counts.
So we have had a shocking couple of months - I do think Ratten needs to respond or should go by year end but thats as much as I think right now.....Anything else in my view is an overcorrection that will bite back twice as hard and waste rather gain time and opportunity.
Just my 2 cents and could be wrong - purely how I see things at this point in time - I hope you welcome a different view
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