Greg Swann........where are you?

Just Judd · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:06 am

aramari wrote:

cimm1979 wrote:

I'd say Just Judd may not be all navy .

You might want to expand...

Do expand cimmi1979.....is it my username or how many posts i have had?

If you like i can PM you a photo of my carlton membership or my 18 month old sons membership?

Will that suffice? Let me know.....

Big Kahuna Boot · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:56 am

....this is about a lot more than the next 4 games, more than the rest of this season.. ..Swann's let rip with some tough talk, now we'll see if he can back it up..

blues8182 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:05 am

Kouta wrote:

dooky wrote:

Just Judd wrote:

Everything that is coming out of Carlton from the president, coach, captain and players is un-inspiring
ATM....the Warnock interview, Gavin Brown article and Ratten email today shows how bad a situation we are in....

You've hit the nail on the head. UN-INSPIRING.

What do you want them to say?

They're belted if they're talking about top four and they're belted if they're not making headlines. I guess Sticks could have used the Nick Maxwell line "If you're not Carlton, then your opinion isn't important to us". That would make Ratten and the supporters confident about the coaching situation whilst they're under siege from supporters.

Or Sticks could have copied Eddie's inflated view of his wit and been insulting by saying Collingwood was the club of the Centrelink payment. Lets bring back the Jack Elliott attitude and put down opposition with insults that Eddie is too stupid to see as offensive.

Some of you are as bad as that ferret Damian Barrett.

Good stuff Kouta, there will be some here that are rapped that the shit has hit the fan and will be able to say how right they were.

In the real world this is not good, I hope it stings the players into a better effort than last Saturday night but I think the confidence will drop further, forget Boak or any other quality player they are not going to want be here as it looks like the club could explode this week and I am stuffed if I know how that is going to inspire players or fix injuries, Geelong would be sitting back thinking "how good is this".

I hope to Christ I am wrong but this could end up in dark days.

isdonis.george · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:29 am

DocSherrin wrote:

isdonis.george wrote:

Ministers deliver good news

Public servants deliver bad news

I was a public servant for a while...Ministers always delivered bad news. I wrote plenty of letters responding to angry constituents for Ministers...never signed by me...always the Minister. It's a saying, I know, but its not the reality.

OK maybe you're right regarding the written word.
But when fronting the media it's usually the other way round.

Have I been watching too much "Yes Minister?"

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:32 am

Just Judd wrote:

aramari wrote:

cimm1979 wrote:

I'd say Just Judd may not be all navy .

You might want to expand...

Do expand cimmi1979.....is it my username or how many posts i have had?

If you like i can PM you a photo of my carlton membership or my 18 month old sons membership?

Will that suffice? Let me know.....

Apologies.

Bit trigger happy after Uniblues effort in the Mick Malthouse thread.

isdonis.george · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:00 pm

DocSherrin wrote:

isdonis.george wrote:

Ministers deliver good news

Public servants deliver bad news

I was a public servant for a while...Ministers always delivered bad news. I wrote plenty of letters responding to angry constituents for Ministers...never signed by me...always the Minister. It's a saying, I know, but its not the reality.

OK maybe you're right regarding the written word.
But when fronting the media it's usually the other way round.

Have I been watching too much "Yes Minister?"

Just Judd · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:19 pm

Apologies.

Bit trigger happy after Uniblues effort in the Mick Malthouse thread.[/quote][/quote]

No worries apology accepted......we are all a bit stressed at the moment, hopefully we can talk about more positive things next week starting with a Carlton win on Friday night.

FWIW - I was happy to read what Swan stated in the papers today, that is what I have been looking for over the last few weeks. Time to make a stance on the field. Anyway actions will be louder than words and no better stage than this Friday night to put it into practice.

camel · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:39 pm

Bluey44 wrote:

Harden up

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/carlton-chief-executive-greg-swann-tells-blues-to-harden-up/story-e6freck3-1226383914168

Quote:

We are playing sh$thouse

About time someone spoke honestly about our performance.

And just for Kouta's benefit: I thought it was great the club leaders were talking Top 4 at the start of the year. It showed intent and desire. Even better, for a few weeks the players matched those expectations too. Well done them.

Trouble is, if you put a target out in public like that then you need to man up and speak honestly when it goes wrong. Not pretend that everything is still rosy and only a few tweaks are needed to get it right.

Our effort and work rate has been sub-standard more often than not since R4. A minor concern has become into a major issue. Talk of us missing the 8 can no longer be laughed off, in fact, it is a cold reality.

For all of the good things it has shown, our playing group has never been able to truly break away from its mentally weak tag. If we're about winning flags then that needs to be fixed.

The current coaching staff may well be up to the task, who knows, by September we may be able to look back and laugh at this six-week blip. But right now I'm not overly happy with what they're presenting to the supporters and members, and not confident at all about the ability the coaches have to remedy the situation.

The Rhino · **Joined:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm **Posts:** 6923

Anyone else happen to catch Juddy on Nova this morning?

Does he deliberately try to sound like Ratts to take the piss, or are we cloning?

isdonis.george · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:04 pm

Must have been handed a script.

Isn't it good when they're all on the same page?

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:06 pm

what did he say?

or did he blame hammer too?

look the club seems to be all at sea from this!

they can't even spin a top!

look at the stooge that is sent here!
reading lines of an auto prompt screen!

he says the club is waiting on forwards.

in the meantime its all hopeless!

The Rhino · **Joined:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm **Posts:** 6923

Said nothing of note (albeit was a non-football related appearance, something to do with Dave Hughes). Topic eventually turned to our form...Repeated the same lines about undisciplined incidents, sounded like he was repeating Ratt's email to the members word for word, got caught up and then changed the subject to Hughesy jumping off the bandwagon.

Awkward...

The Rhino · **Joined:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm **Posts:** 6923

Eugene Arocca available.....wonder if we took the best guy from Collingwood?

Juanita Jones · **Joined:** Fri Oct 01, 2010 12:30 pm **Posts:** 4148

well from one basket case to another.

cimm1979 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 2:57 pm

The Rhino wrote:

Eugene Arocca available.....wonder if we took the best guy from Collingwood?

Can't work with the people above him (the Board) or the people below him (D Macdonald Footy Manger)

Doesn't leave much in between.

The Rhino · **Joined:** Tue Feb 08, 2011 3:20 pm **Posts:** 6923

Perfect fit given those who wouldb be above and below him at Carlton..

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:19 pm

Eddie would be laughing like a hyena right now!

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 3:22 pm

probably says more about the mechanical structures of a footy team than the names.

swan and this guy were OK at the magpies. move them to another environment and they flounder like the goldfish in the dirty waters.

Dominator_7 · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:17 pm

MPH78 wrote:

God help us if we put in another meek performance and get smashed.

Mate, imagine the pressure on Ratts by supporters and the media should we lose our next 4 games (which is very likely the way we re playing at the moment)..

The Normal One · **Joined:** Mon Apr 06, 2009 8:35 pm **Posts:** 20076

Must say listening to Eddie's comments, Sticks didn't need to come out with a media release, a bit over the top.

As for the below comment by Sticks, no mention that Ratts has the support to see out the year? In fact I interpret this as the assistants are successful and knowledgeable, Ratts is just the leader.

"We have had no need to as we have a mix of successful and knowledgeable coaches led by senior coach Brett Ratten."
http://www.carltonfc.com.au/news/newsar ... fault.aspx

Caro also mentioned how Ratts was given a stern talking to after the comments about Boak in the media, apparently against Club policy? Ratts obviously forgot the policy?

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