No. But if one says that Sticks is doing a better than great job, it's rubbish. Costa did a great job, Colless did a great job, Mcguire did a great job. Sticks is doing a crap job. Hardly any part of any department is working.... AND no-one is being held accountable for it! What else should the president be doing other than being, and holding others, accountable.

A booming voice is not enough. Standing by your man is completely insufficient. I want my president making bold decisions and taking bold actions and then living and dying by the outcomes of those decisions and actions.

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KPIs?

When Bernie Brookes took over Myer he had a set of KPIs to meet and he did a great job doing them. They included things such as selling assets, reducing staff overheads and generally making the business look like its financials were on an upward trajectory. The problem with KPIs like that is they have nothing to do with having a broader understanding of the long term needs of an organization and what's best for it and its various stakeholders.

What happened next was predictable. Myer was floated based on flimsy projections that resulted from one-off changes (asset sales, staff reductions etc) and then proceeded to tank as the reality of what Brooke's had done sunk in. Sadly an iconic Australian company is now a shell with bugger all assets and has been dumped by it's customers because its service is crap.

Why did this happen?

Brookes was only ever there to make his organization look like it was operating well. What he didn't have was a vision for Myer 5, 10, 20 or 50 years down the track.

We have a similar problem at Carlton.

We have a club with bugger all connection to its supporters (customers), has sold assets (draft picks) for a quick short term fix and appears to be flailing around in the dark after the initial excitement of that sale ready pump priming.

Our "vision" is to win flags and be successful. Guess what? That's not a vision? That's just the base aspiration of every club in every sporting association on the planet.

Where's the vision?

How can an "interim President" seriously have the club's long term best interests at heart?

I have no doubt that Kernahan loves the club and would do anything for it but he appears to have grown comfortable in his "interim" role and I'm not seeing anything that remotely suggests a vision for what we might become.

If he really wants to do what's best for the club he should step aside and allow a regeneration of the organization.

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If they do, then there needs to be process improvement, for sure.
But for now, trying to get rid of someone thats doing his job well is ludicrous.

Only aspect of the club I want to see vastly improved 10-fold is recruiting strategies and list management.

Everything else has improved out of sight over the course of past 5 years and see nothing but more improvement unless proven otherwise.

Sticks is doing a crap job - like what? What decisions do you want him to make? Cant just say it and don't know what it is.

Name me one thing we lead the AFL in aside from debt.

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Ah, so they're "up" now.
10 minutes ago they were "booming"

How much is sponsorship up?

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We havent been playing finals for a decade so naturally numbers dropped off, but everythig is now on the improve and when on the improve unless you know exactly what you are doing you sont spoil the improve, you let it roll..

All Sticks needs to do is get us out of Etihad and into the MCG.

Thread started with a useful metaphor; early responses were of the John Kennedy ilk "just do something!".
And now appreciating those with a detailed knowledge of the club, preferably inside the off field stuff, giving their thoughts constuctively. Interesting stuff for one who really only concerns himself with the players. Keep the ideas coming.

Not entirely sure, check the annual report/

So our being average is because we play half the games at the Dome now.???
But you like to talk facts.

Where are the facts about in what sector of football club are we better than average???

Essendon* play at the dome too... they are up on us in every aspect... including football performance

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Our membership increased most years we were shit though...

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We came from a long way back mate and now improving you dont meddle with improvement unless you're superman or deluded.

So you dont know, but its "booming" anyway?
For the record, I'm not interested in EGMs and sacking coaches mid season but I'm also not interested in people coming on and making bullshit claims about "booming" memberships. Lets stick to facts and we'll make wiser and less emotional decisions.

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Is this unique?That a club comes from a long way back???

Please state what we lead the AFL in.. or are close to the top...!!

Dont continue to shy away!!!

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Not sure where a change of leadership will take the club whilst the club is improving..never heard such nonsense ever.

This site has become like an interrogation chamber. Read my lips. I.DON'T.FLOWER.KNOW!!! If I did, I'd take it on myself.

Did you read GWS's post above? We want a president with a vision. I gave you examples. Someone that'll do what Costa did. It's so easy to say "Oh, father-son picks". But they've had good lists before. They had a great list from 1989 to 1995 which included a Brownlow Medallist, a guy who's supposed to be just about the best footballer of all time, a good midfield, a great forward line, etc, etc. Part of that time they even had a good coach (he won two consecutive flags a few years later). But until Costa came along and transformed the place, nothing made a difference.

A sidebar: Read this: http://www.backpagelead.com.au/twenty20/665-frank-costa-geelong-fc-president and then try to imagine Sticks' answers.

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Thats nice to have a president with a vision and all that nice stuff. What about a nice steady incline or uptrend with a blip every now and then but the trend still goes up. What we need is a leader of men a visionary can be found in a drug addict.

Says it all....

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But change of leadership occurred twice (three if you count Collins) during "that" era, and membership still increased? Theoretically we were improving in most of those years too, admittedly, 16th to 15th, or the false dawn of 2004, and a few Wizard Cups, but hey, I took what I could out of those years..

Could also argue that if you're not first, you're last...

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This "blip" has lasted about 12 years. How long are you willing to wait? I'm getting old, dude!

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