Yeah it is, about where we were last year, unless you like jumping off cliffs, go for it.

so you are happy to stagnate (although we arent, we are going backwards fast) and watch whilst the likes of adelaide,sydney,Essendon* rush past us - keep waiting and richmond and st kilda will fly by too.

its ok though - we are in the 8

you have low expectations

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

We won a premiership in 1995. All is okay.

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Never said I was happy, but I also realise it's not as bad as you make it out to be either. All this talk of clean out is pure nonsense. Need better recruiting strategies, but this is the worst injury crisis I have seen ever. The team we field if injury crisis persist Brisbane Bears of 1994 would annihalate us.

Brad.

To still suggest we are a realistic shot at being at the MCG at the pointy end of the season is outrageous. Carlton are finished for the season and the only thing left to salvage is to get games into the likes of Bootsma, Buckley, Lucas, Dale etc and re-load for 2013.

A full pre season and a dose of reality will have the playing group primed for a massive pre season and a shot at making amends in 2013.

too true

people dont realise how long ago that was

17 @#$%&! years ago !

i was 15 and didnt even like football back then

i managed to jump on the carlton bandwagon just in time for the first wooden spoon.

i've had enough of the shit !

maybe i'm the curse?

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

actually i lie - i jumped on in time to see the 99 prelim then gf loss - but still didnt really care that much then

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I know people see things differently but even blind Freddy can see we have some serious issues currently.

It astounds me that some people do not acknowledge this. Or acknowledge how serious they are.

As I've posted yesterday, the decision makers at the club need to do a full review to ascertain why we are performing so poorly. Even against average to poor sides.

We are playing bottom 5 footy at present imho and change is required immediately. What that is should be determined by the review.

My biggest concern is our performances have all the hallmarks of serious internal issues. No fight, no heart, no pride. This can't be tolerated or mitigated.

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We are on our way back...

Did you read anything I said?

There's a little in between being there 'at the pointy end of the season' (which I said nothing of the sort) and winning only 2 more games so don't make out what I'm saying is outrageous.

We may not be happy with that in between, but it does exist.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

a poor run home might put a serious dent into next years membership tally

Swanny has pokies to cover that shortfall

Brad.

Our goal at the start of the year was to finish top 4. Anything less is a failure and with that now out of reach we need to start playing the kids.

So obviously you're saying something else completely.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

We are not out of the top 4 unless the fat lady sings.. but need to turn around our season pretty soon...if we are 1-3 over next four then we would probably need to win next 10..it's not out of the question..team form is fickle and clubs in current top four can drop off very quickly too.

I have a terrible feeling its all going to blamed on injuries and that's it!
Makes me shudder!

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Happy Days Are Here Again!!

i'm convinced you work for the club

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I think once its mathematically impossible to make the eight we should go down that road. We need to instill fight not throw in the towel.

Finish bottom eight with a healthy list should be the goal. Prelim then a small chance.

Noone would have thought we could slip so far after smashing Collingwood by 10 goals so perhaps its equally possible to go back the other way and find some form.

Nah, just a supporter supporting my club...its a novel concept you guys should try it.

Need two key forwards for this Friday so our mids can have someone to kick too is a damn good start. Praying Waite and Hendo come good

So losing another elimination final in Sydney or Adelaide is ok with you?