Unfortunately you wont gauge much with the current status quo.

Ultimately.. again in season 2012 where have Carlton excelled in the AFL?
Membership?
Club direction?
Turnover.?
Supporter inclusiveness?
Team performance?
Player performance?
Coaching nouse?
Player development?
Media nouse?

Just another year wasted.... and a walk off the cliff will highight this football club as is warranted but so far flying under the radar.

Its the sick old man of the old VFL...

Nothing will spotlight the club like not doing it on the park.
There is nowhere to hide for anyone !!!

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Again NO.
Which one deserves it? Midfield, forward, Richardson and why?
As of today - the complete group have failed. I cannot see how you can pick one out as a standout!
No they need some guide (ie. Thompson) for the rest of the year and a review come years end.

Joseph only went to Boak after half time. Before then we had him playing in the role (small defender) in which he has consistently excelled over the last 2 years. In the first half our midfield tag was the dour Simpson on Pearce.

I didn't notice it when I was watching, but according to one of the news articles on the game, Hartlett was Judd's opponent. And we know that Judd doesn't really defend. I don't know if he's winged at the moment, but doesn't seem to want or be able to tackle.

...as long as it's not Mark Riley

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Deserves what.?
The calls are Rattens!!!

He calls the shots!!!

The others contribute he fllters and makes the calls.

We dont know what he is flltering and calling.

Last night 3 guys that gave a go.. were Irishman Tuohy, first year player Bootsma and second year player Watto.

That means the more established players arent putting in .... i dont think theyre not responding to Richardson .... and the assistant coaches message... its the coach.

Five years... Most players only know Ratten as head coach.... no experience with anyone else.

And wow!!!... this is what we have...!!!

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I think you'll find there's a lot of other who have had a gutful too.

Merged with the post match vomit thread.

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Trying to drive down Boak's value for contract negotiations

I think what we have done is turned him away from our club, along with 100 others plus a few of our own!!!!!

Off field:
Too early to get rid of the coach, but sack an assistant and put the rest on notice.
Training:
The changes for this game is give everyone a different training environment.
Give them a light week with just ball skills,
but it has to be intense.
Game:
Get tough and drop five six players including a couple of regulars.
Positional changes
Changing possies of players bring rejuvenation, apart from Bower forward.
That has to be one of the worst moves I would ever wish to see from one of our coach's.
Let the players play.
Maybe one tag on Johnson that's it.
Don't quote stats to players and no press no zone just tell them to play real positions.
Have some confidence in the team and their competence.
Instil some agro and team pride and selflessness.
Shepherd, tackle and block for the team not a stat for individuality.
Finally it won't happen but I would like to see only the coach in the box with no one else around him.

You want to expose him even more?
Look Ratts is an assistant coach who coached as a main coa ch for 5 years cos of who he knows.

the players dont respect him.

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Put the rest down on the boundary.
Actually I know where your going with this and kind of agree.
Ratten needs to make a statement this week.
Everyone move out and let me and my players work this out for the week.
The guys is hanging himself, if he hasn't already and needs to take the reigns, else.....

Well then Synbad - it's time for him to stand up.

Its really time for him to find a big bowl.. and a samurai sword and kneel over it... and do the Hari Kari.

Same with Sticks and a few others.

This is not knee jerk....its the right thing to do.... if they are Carlton!!!

Its ok trying to extract pensioners money from them by asking them if they are Carlton.

Time to find out if these bozos are Carlton!!!

Cos they dont cut the mustard!!!

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Giving it some thought.
I think that Port played really well last nite, and are not a rabble. They have always had glimpses, and are finally stringing some games together.

We have too many A and B grade players out right now. The competition is not so uneven that you can getaway with that. A good team, busting a gut, beat our team that was undermanned skills and experience wise.

However, we were struggling before we lost Murph, and have seemed to lack killer instincts, and passion week in and out. I don't know why that is, and would like to see it fixed.

It is very hard to take right now, because we were promised a lot, and showed that promise early on .
Also, we stuck through years of supporting through hard times, and now, it's possible that reward is still a long way off.

It's also possible that we can recover enough to remain in the 8, and then work a miracle or 2.

If there are going to be changes at some time in the next 12 months, then I'd like to see that start with a masterful and intelligent Prez.
Re build with intelligence, and boldness from there.

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Have heard this.

believe its not a happy camp ATM.

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How? He's had 5 years and done his best. He isn't a Senior Coach. I believe he would be a fantastic development coach. That is his personality.

We need a strong coach that will not accept mediocrity and that the players will follow no matter what

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Swanny needs to stand up. He is the one person that can fix this. It's time!

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Jus once I wanna see Ratts screaming n the box, frothing at the mouth, smashing a phone, reacting explosively to player mistakes, instead of looking like a lost little boy looking left and right for his Mum in a crowded K-Mart. Judging by his demeanor we see week in week out regardless of the result, it's fair to say he doesn't have that mongrel in him to give the players a good spray when they need it and, conversely, the juice to deliver passionate motivating speeches to pump the team up.

Too cute, too nice, too soft...like our gameplay right now.

I was speaking to someone with links to a few high profile people at Carlton and apparently someone who puts a lot of money into the club tried to remove ratts two years ago but was overruled by the hierarchy.
J Pratt also does not think he is the right person for the job and is supported by the pokie king who as we all know is now a board member (correct me if I am wrong).
So it seems we are not alone.... The other thing said, opinion based, is that Malthouse will be coach next year. Nothing else would satisfy Mick more after what has happened at Collingwood!

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Well that's funny, cos I was speaking to someone who also said he was friends with someone who puts a lot of money into the club, and he swears there is some kind of deal done with Paul Roos.

Who the hec do these people who put' loads of money' into the club think they are? They are all power mad, and think they can be the one to take credit for 'saving' the club.

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