You dont think our current president has any passion?

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Can Eater just to jolt your memory, the club was well and truly on its knees when Collo came in.
A lot of the negativity related to Princes Park would lay squarely at Jack's feet. He got a stack of noses out of joint at club and AFL level whose support would have been crucial to get the project viable.
I don't mind Jack and yes he should have got an invite to the reunion but I can also understand why this would not happen.
Jack's mantra in terms of speaking in relation to our football club should be "if you have nothing good to say then don't say it all". When he crosses that line, and he has done it on a few occassions, it is all about him and not the club.

It's hard to get past this. I find it hard to dredge up sympathy for the man, as he is still a loose cannon, and reminds me of a dark and illegal past that is not something to be proud of.
Having said that, inviting him to events such as these, are a way for the club to acknowledge the good things he has done for the club. I'd never want to see him back in a formal capacity though, and I cringe when he is interviewed about anything relating to CFC.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Too true about Collo - and while you are at it ask yourself where we would have been if the AFL, after telling jack that they would support the continued use of carlton if they built that new stand, then reneged on the deal (as only the AFL can) and we were left holding the baby, so to speak.

And don't start me about collo's role in our salary cap debacle - planning and implementing it then sitting as judge, jury and executioner at the AFL when he got there. All because he had a falling out with jack.

good night nurse!!!

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Another one with a bad memory.

If it was up to me ... John Elliot would be kept as far away from the club as possible. I think the good thing he did for the club were over-rated ... and we all know about the bad things.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

Not getting into the rights and wrongs of the invite or otherwise but when it comes Elliott's legacy everyone realises we won 6 flags in 15 years before Elliott took over and then 2 in 21 while he was in charge and then 0 in the following 9 while the mess was mopped up right?

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Truth Hurts.

I know I'm a broken record on this but Collo is one of the Carlton heroes forget about going to see our team on the weekend we wouldnt have one if he hadn't pulled the club out of the deep mire it was in after Elliott
A lesser man would have chucked in the keys whatever else he did or didnt do he is a true Carlton hero and Richard Pratt did a great deal for our club but I reckon we owe Collo more

Well George Orwell would be impressed with that rewriting of history. Straight out of "1984" methinks.

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

L.M 35-06

So now Ian Collins was working for the AFL in 2002 when we got done for salary cap breaches. Wow, I think I've heard everything now.

Frank I remember not sitting to far from you at a training session after what I just heard about the situation at the club thinking "We are flowered even if we get rid of Elliot" That period of time took a huge toll on me personally and professionally but in the end it was worth it to see the club survive and hoepfully prosper. For me the next premiership will be the sweetest. I still cannot see John and not have the urge to punch him hard in the face.

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

L.M 35-06

He might be referring to the time where Collins de-registered Greg Williams for 6 weeks after we recruited him in 1992, in a deal that Collins probably orchestrated before he went over to the AFL.

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Doesn't read like the Williams situation

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BM - don't mix the 2 senarios up.
JE stuffed up and we all admit that. Whether we should have let him fix the mess he made is for another time.
Collo on the other hand was very underhanded towards CFC and even ex-footballers, administrators call it as it is.
I had a chat with another ex-footballer today, who currently works in the media and he was certaintly not holding his thoughts to himself about Collo. Unfortunately the guy only looked after himself and CFC, amongst others, are still struggling from the decision to move.
By the way, the amount of these people that tell me a 3rd stadium is so logical and that PP is the stadium, if it were fixed to standards, is astounding.
I don't know what else to say to you guys.!

It matters not what else you say about Collo because it's inaccurate rubbish....

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Yep - me and half the footy AFL community I talk too.
Whatever makes you and anyone else sleep at night.

Let's not forget that Collo "removed" himself from any discussions to send the Blues to Etihad.

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.. yep silly me ..
I still remember the famous vote night, like it was yesterday or should I say the morning after.
Anyway, no use going on as some of us know nothing and talk rubbish compared to others so knowledgable.
I wish I could name some of the people I talk too.