Gibbs' shots for goal have taken on an Ian Baker-Finch like quality over recent times.

If he starts snap hooking them like Simon Beaumont then we are in big trouble.

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Hickmont. Any relation to Ricky Mont?

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

Pros:

Robbo, Warnock, McLean, Ellard and Judd around the contest.
Hammer continues to take forward 50 marks. Although he kicked poorly.
Tuohy's best game for a while.
Bootsma again showed some real talent.
Walker and Betts.
Decent percentage boost in the end.

Cons:

Seemed to butcher a lot of pretty gettable opportunities up forward.
Seemed to concede unnecessarily easy opportunties for goal to the opposition (most of which they butchered).
Garlett and Gibbs still struggling for form.
Kreuzer was a little better, but still only looked our 3rd most damaging big man out there.

Pros

Winning
Robbo - 100% effort, all game, every contest (Gibbs should look no further)
Hampson - clunking marks - great for his confidence
Brock - good effort. He really is slow, noticeably IMO, and he can't kick over 45m but he's what we needed today. Clearances, blocking, grunt work...well done.
Bootsma - thought he showed some good signs. Sure he made mistakes, and but with these young guys, all I want to see are signs that they can play at this level. Boots has poise , doesn't panic, and tries to do the team things. Get another 15 kgs on that frame and he'll be great.

Cons
Just the team as a whole seems to be playing without cohesion at the moment. There is just no flow in the team. Hopefully we can get our mojo back soon. Missing some key players, so once we start getting them back, hopefully that improves.

Jeffy - he's been struggling for a few weeks now.

I know he's getting a lot of flak at the moment, but Bryce Gibbs really needs a rocket. Sure he still gets his possessions, chooses nice safe low risk kicks (absolutely no left foot though...twice today he tried to kick on the outside of his right and missed targets when a simple left foot kick would have hit the target) but the thing that is really unforgivable is his lack of intensity. I don't want to say his soft... He tackles and spoils when he has too. But as someone said earlier, he just jogs around at 75%....let him play hbf, but absolutely bust your gut running to break lines and create!!!! He leaves plenty in the tank at the end of the game IMO, while other elite mids and even flankers are completely knackered! It's like watching Ryan houlahan mark2.0

Bit of a rant but it's just really frustrating me.

Bring on the power, knock them off and then let's smash the cats, who arent what they used to be!

Pro:
First live game this year.
Robbo.
McLean.
Bootsma looks like he'll be a fine player.
The crowd were pretty good where we were sitting, no bagging out of Carlton players and good natured.


Con:
Still a handful of players desperately out of form.
Forward entries being wasted.
Terrible spectacle.


WTF:
The Carlton fan who struck up a conversation on the way in who asked if I thought "Warnoff" would play OK. I thought I'd misheard but he then said "Warnoff" 3-4 more times.

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And to think he was actually a leggy.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

I watched the first 10 mins before heading off to the derby. Frankly, we looked shot, so more than happy to get the points. Even against melb.

Having just watched the replay, my thoughts.

Pros

Robbo
Ellard
Brock
206
Walker in the middle
Bootsma showed a bit I reckon
Hopefully we take some confidence out of the last quarter.

Cons

The first three quarters. We are lucky we only played melb today.
The start. Seriously wtf was that. IMHO a sign of how low our confidence is right now. As I said above, we looked shot.
Have a few terribly out of form such as jeffy, kreuz and Gibbs.
Our mojo still appears way off returning. Very little cohesiveness though perhaps this can be partly mitigated by the change in personnel.

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Richmond supporters > Carlton supporters

Sadly this place is indicitive of how far we've fallen.

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spewing bile and abuse is now part of Aussie culture - people have been conditioned to do it

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PRO's:-

- ROBBO
Brilliant and gutsy effort from him today. He has been asked to step up and he took leaps rather than steps. Inspiring stuff.
- WARNOCK
Could very well be our #1 ruckman if he plays like that! Loved his clearance work too.
- McLEAN
Did ok. Not great but OK. Still don't like him, but you gotta give credit when somebody tries hard like that. I have no problem when players put in 'effort'.
- WINNING...........
Without Murphy / Yazz / Hendo / Waite / Carazzo / Laidler.


CON's

- Crap game. Geez those first 3qtrs were boring!
- Easybeats. Melbourne are woefull. A win's a win, but let's not get ahead of ourselves.
- Jeff.........what were you thinking? Will he get a week for that?
- Flooding. Again we pushed to many numbers up the ground. It pisses me off when I see players like Eddie Betts taking marks in the defending 50. He shouldn't be there!!!

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- Aristotle

Once there was a bit of feeling about the game, especially from Robbo, it fired up the whole team and lit the proverbial rocket up their bums. If that's what it takes, then that's what it takes. Didn't work against the Saints where there was plenty of feeling too, but we were pretty limp wristed then.

How people think that is going to help a player I will never know. Sad bastards. Save your energy for the opposition.

I stand well away from people in some of the worse places to watch the game just to avoid that rubbish.

PROS
A win
Warnock was good but raises our issue of having three guys who's best possie is first ruck.
Mitch is a beauty
Good to see Collins get a run , and Bootsma is a talent, just needs another 20 kgs
McLean showed character to be on the discard heap and then take his chance when it came. History suggests he is not the answer, but he will at least get a clear run for the next few weeks

CONS
Melbourne tried hard but were horrible, their skills were reminiscent of the blues circa 2003
COuldn't imagine us beating anyone in the top half of the ladder with that side and that performance. Need to really improve

Nothing brave about either. Both responses are equally piss poor.

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No better than everyone suddenly jumping on the Brock bandwagon after being aboard arguably the easiest bandwagon in football in mercilessly bagging him out for the past 2 and a half years....

Most of which will jump off as soon as Carrazzo comes back, or Curnow starts finding form..

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

PRO:

Brock: We don't need anymore pace (the pace of Brock is not the issue) ... we need someone who can get their hands on the ball ... Well done.
Warnock: So much up side to his game ... Must somehow be re-signed.

CON:

We are a long way behind the top sides (until we get players back).

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

Pro
Brock - now keep him there
Robbo responded well to the challenge
Three rucks- I thought it worked albeit Hammer was a forward
Bootsma - looks promising lovely long kick of the football not afraid to tackle either
Warnock - very good against one of the competitions best

Con
Too many points accuracy in front of goal is woeful it the same story nearly every week more points than goals

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Not sure any are jumping on a bandwagon, just praising a guy who played a good game.

You are right though, he probably won't be given much slack if he plays poorly next week, haha.

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Pro: Bootsma hurting the opposition in his second game.. he will play 300 games.