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Stamos

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:18 pm

Harry Vallence

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Hornet wrote:

HeraldScum has D.Ellard, K.Lucas, M.Watson as emergencies...

In: Bootsma, Collins, Joseph, McLean

Surely Curnow doesn't get a game ahead of Ellard

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Big Kahuna Boot

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:19 pm

Ken Hunter

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The Rhino wrote:

Looking over the teams this week:

Minson, Roughead and Cordy vs. Hawkins, West and Stephenson
Vickery, Griffiths and Maric vs. Roughead, Hale (McCauley as emergency)
Renouf, Stewart and Westhoff vs. Smith
Koschitzke, Blake vs. Pyke, LRT
Tippett, Jacobs, Jenkins vs. Jolly, Keefe, Dawes
Giles, Phillips, Folau vs. Bellchambers, Ryder, Carlisle
Goldstein, Petrie, Pedersen vs. Longer
Kreuzer, Warnock, Hampson vs. Jamar, Clark, Sellar
Cox, Naitanui, Lycett vs. Sandilands, Clarke, Griffin

Not many teams going in with the one ruck, probably not by choice. Not many more going in with two. Plenty with three.....

..same of your names listed are kpps though, playing a 'ruck role', and are not bonafide ruckmen..

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Stamos

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:24 pm

Harry Vallence

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The Rhino wrote:

Until Patrick Keane tweets it, reckon it's just alphabetical order (Botsma, Bower, Collins, Curnow)

Yep, it's this

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Big Kahuna Boot

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:33 pm

Ken Hunter

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club29 wrote:

Surely with Waite out and Thornton dropped we are not actually playing 3 rucks. One is taking Waites position.
It is not like the 3rd tall (ruck if you will) is taking the place of a running player and upsetting our balance and run. The 3rd tall will be replacing a tall forward.

I dont think all 3 will play either though.

..yeah, don't think we'd play all 3 as ruck/fwds.. ..but it won't go well cos we dont play a KPF as the main target, [or as a target at all].. ..we're just saying "lets play our tallest guys in ruck and up fwd, bonza"..

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The Rhino

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:34 pm

Craig Bradley

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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:

The Rhino wrote:

..same of your names listed are kpps though, playing a 'ruck role', and are not bonafide ruckmen..

True - although a lot of them have played a full game in the ruck beforehand, and could well do if one of the incumbents pulls a hammy in the first 5 minutes. My criteria was basically whether they could do this, or whether they were vulnerable when it came to a tall vs. small discussion at selection table (Carlisle, Pedersen)

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Lace Out

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:34 pm

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dannyboy wrote:

cimm1979 wrote:

Is there a cup or a medal up for grabs tonight?

Like the Brock Medal or The Johnson Cup.

Could be the only silverware we get this year.

Broken Cup?

The "which way is up? cup

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pinnell

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:38 pm

Horrie Clover

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Kruiz cannot hold a mark at the moment so why not give him a run at CHB? At the very least it will help out the age old problem we have when the opposition resting ruckman kick bags on us.

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Effes

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:39 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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Carlton's Round Nine line-up:

B: Z.Tuohy M.Jamison A.Joseph
HB: B.Gibbs L.Henderson C.Yarran
C: K.Simpson C.Judd H.Scotland
HF: D.Armfield M.Kreuzer A.Walker
F: E.Betts S.Hampson J.Garlett
Foll: R.Warnock M.Robinson B.McLean
INT: J.Bootsma, A.Collins, E.Curnow, D.Ellard

Emg: P.Bower, K.Lucas & M.Watson

IN: B.McLean, R.Warnock, A.Collins, A.Joseph & J.Bootsma

OUT: B.Thornton (Gluteal Strain), J.Russell (Omitted), M.Murphy (Shoulder), N.Duigan (Calf) & P.Bower (Omitted)

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Big Kahuna Boot

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:41 pm

Ken Hunter

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@Rhino -- ..those names though while able to play in the ruck, it's only due to ruck problems that they do.. ..and even then, some coaches would be praying they don't screw up their kpps..

..e.g - imagine if roughy goes down longterm playing ruck, or hawkins?.. ..imagine dee's with clark on the stretcher..

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The Normal One

Post subject: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:46 pm

formerly King Kenny

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Would rather Bower at CHB with Henderson forward and a ruckman dropped.

Just too tall and immobile. Frawley and Rivers will be looking forward to Sunday.

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Hornet

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:51 pm

Craig Bradley

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So Ratts believes Thornton is a pain in the ass?

Did we just invent an injury???

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The Rhino

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:57 pm

Craig Bradley

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Yet Hawkins was garbage/VFL fodder until they swung him into the ruck, Hawks looked shoddy with Renouf as back up ruck, put Roughy in there, and changes the dynamics of the team and their forward line. Clarks' only decent full year to date was the one he played in the ruck all season too.

Not many players with the size that coaches have the luxury of avoiding playing there. Goodes is probably the only one I can think of.

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Rexy

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 3:59 pm

Stephen Silvagni

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Effes wrote:

happy for Collins - hope he can take advantage of the current situation :thumbsup:

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diesel_85

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:03 pm

Harry Vallence

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Effes wrote:

aren't the final teams announced at 5ish?
i couldnt think of any good reasons to drop Bower, he's in his best form for a few years and has been our second best backman
Thats bizarre if true
:banghead:

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teknodeejay

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:14 pm

Rod Ashman

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Curnow must have photos of someone's wife.

Anyhow I'll try and get back into positive mode... you just feel like you were promised 60 day aged wagyu beef and got coles gravy beef on clearance special instead.

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Effes

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:29 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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Melbourne team
B: James Frawley, Jared Rivers, Clint Bartram
HB: Jack Grimes, Colin Garland, Tom McDonald
C: Rohan Bail, Brent Moloney, Sam Blease
HF: Jack Trengove, Jack Watts, Brad Green
F: Jeremy Howe, Mitch Clark, James Sellar
FOLL: Mark Jamar, Lynden Dunn, Nathan Jones
I/C: Jamie Bennell, Jordie McKenzie, Daniel Nicholson, James Magner
EMG: Joel Macdonald, Luke Tapscott, Troy Davis
IN: Rohan Bail, James Sellar, Lynden Dunn, Daniel Nicholson
OUT: Liam Jurrah (ankle), Aaron Davey, Colin Sylvia, Cale Morton

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jimmae

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:29 pm

Bruce Doull

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Bower dropped? I really don't get it. This is more art than science.

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choo

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne Pre-Match (team pg22)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:31 pm

Harry Vallence

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Run and spread and kick it long.

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Stamos

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne (squad pg14)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:33 pm

Harry Vallence

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teknodeejay wrote:

Curnow must have photos of someone's wife.

He's got photos of someone.

I'm happy with all the other changes, just Curnow should be out instead of Bower.

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Stone Free

Post subject: Re: R9: Carlton Vs Melbourne Pre-Match (team pg22)

Posted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:33 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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It's not going to be that wet on Sunday and hopefully the ground will have dried out a bit from today's drenching.

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