You'll find I mentioned the extra Adelaide player(s) at the stoppages in the match thread, BV. Go check if you wish.

Maybe I was being over generous to Ratts with the description above or maybe he is just 'shit'

Fact of the matter is that last year when we lost 3 or so on the trot we were labelled soft downhill skiers.
Rewind that to the year before when the hawks roughed us up and the same old story about us was written.
The year before that it was all about how young and talented we were but we had a front running style.
So RATTS has had 3 years now to rectify this front running down hill skying softness tag and as yet i have seen nothing to suggest he has done anything about it except quote stat after stat after stat..................
This hasn't just materialised over the last 2 weeks people it's been an on going problem that OUR coach is yet to fix.

The hawks drew there line in the sand and the next year they became feared.
The Bombers were seen to be only as an offensive team and Hird in 2 years has turned them around.
The eagles were cellar dwellers for a year and Worsfold turned that around the very next season.

I have been patient as you can see BUT i have now lost total faith in him.......

My line in the sand about Ratts has been drawn.

rats? the tribe has spoken!

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Yes, but its not a new tactic Rexy.
St Kilda, Essendon* and Adelaide flooded the stoppages which we didn't handle.
I'm seeing no answers other than blame the players. Disappointing.

Whether Ratts is labelled "shit"or not is irrelevant to me.
I'm just interested in how we get back into a winning mindset with a structure that is effective. If the current coaching group can come up with something, I'll be more than happy.

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Actually, used correctly - and particularly with sport - you arrive at the answers a lot quicker once you have the statistical information in front of you. Anyone saying stats are useless has absolutely no @#$%&! idea.



I'm tipping they're wondering who their @#$%&! coach is. They know Ratts technically is - but Paul Williams and Mark Riley call the shots in the midfield along with.....Chris Judd.



Like always - blame can be attributed to more than one party. My honest opinion is that Ratts hasn't got the last say on matters pertaining to football operations like other coaches have and that there's been a fair bit of argy-bargy going on in that space for a while now. I'm dealing with problems with the board I report to at work...so I'd hate to think what Ratts' is having to go through. It's just a nightmare dealing with incompetent people. There are a few of these at Carlton.

By the way - am I right in suggesting Ratts is on a one-year (2012), one-year option (2013) contract and not the two-year reported by club and media.

AFAIC we have deficiencies both in the playing group and the FD that are holding us back from taking the next step.

Surely it's not just Ratten - there is a team of them

Richardson - senior assistant - surely after 2 losses he would be saying shit this aint working Ratts why don't we do this
Williams - stoppages coach - Has Ratts said to him WTF is happening has williams pointed out we are getting smashed give me Brocky whoever - or so and so is not working here
Riley - Midfield coach - anything
Barker - responsible for the forwards - the defensive pressure has been terrible lately
Brown- why are the backs leaking goals

I know the buck stops with Ratten but he doesn't appear to me to be the type of guy that would knock back any suggestions - He doesn't appear to be this is my plan and we are sticking to it type of guy- He seems like he would be an inclusive type of bloke that takes on ideas from all around him

My question is if BV and others with tactical knowledge of the game can quite clearly see whats going on why can't the entire coaching panel - They have this leading teams hanging around that should assist in everyone having an imput and people shouldnt be frightened of speaking up -

and what of the players at the game review did they say hey every bloody stoppage we are out numbered


It all seems a little bizarre to me that it could suddenly turn so pear shaped with the loss of one player who up to 12 months ago was considered the ball butcherer

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I wasnt having a go at you BV i was just having a go at those who think that the coach is the blame for our players being out of form. The reasons Rexy points out being one reason.
I have had a bit to say about tactics over the last month.

Win or halve the contest is what i meant to type. Rushed it a bit and made an unforced error.

Its not about line coaches. Its an overall structure issue.
The defenders are not pushing up to man the opponents at the stoppage. We're making the conscious decision to stand back and let the midfield fend for themselves.
I can understand confusion for a quarter or 2 but after 3 games, it must be an instruction. Players don't disregard instructions for a month a get away with it!

Its a structural decision that is impacting on our ability to win. They're not made by Judd or line coaches. They're made by the coaching group as a whole.

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I don't know BV if I see a moth I JUST FORGET EVERYTHING!!!!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Not sure why you are coming after me with the blind faith call. I have had my go. I prefer to talk about tactics than argue crazy stuff and be all aggressive.
I liked your email about tactics. It was good. Most have been saying that stuff in posts but you put went a bit deeper.
Id prefer to discuss ideas about what Ratts and co can do tactically to get us out of this hole.

Ratts knows he loses his job if he can't get improvement. He wont cry if he fails and loses his job.

So its obvious. He gets us out of the hole and improve on last year or he fails and a new coach is appointed. I choose to support him.
If that is blind faith then so be it.

PS :- I reckon you have lost the plot citing media conference dribble to prove points though. Just made you sound like a frustrated face painter type.
Who cares if Ratts talks about stats in pressers !! The presser means nothing.

Well put BV

Noticed at one stoppage in front of goal at the northern end that Mackay was clearly on his own for ages, ofcourse the ruckman taps it to him for an easy goal.

If a mug like me can see it, WTF are they doing in the box

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I am sure at games end Brenton Sanderson was standing infront of his players talking about the all the KPI's they reached during the game and how the results took care of themselves.
He would have brought attention to the areas that the stats showed they need improvement in.
Crows fans would love to hear those stats. Of course they would. They won.

Apologies. It was poorly worded.

As for press comments. I disagree. Ratten was asked an hour before the game how they were going to turn around their form.
Those comments are for the supporters and football public. If Ratts wants to treat that it as a game and give out nonsensical comments. He deserves to be judged accordingly.

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Agreed. With input from Judd.

No ones denying Stats are a vital piece of information. But the point I'm making is they convey an outcome for an action.
If the data isn't to your liking, you have to change the action.
Its no good saying "the opposition have stopped us kicking long so we'll start kicking long"
You need to look at what occurred to effect that change.

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Pies fans use to hate Malthouse going on about wars after losses. They forgot pretty quickly when they hit top gear in 2010.
Can't imagine getting angry that a losing coach kept talking nonsense after a game in a press conference. Happens in just about every sport world wide and is just dribble after an exhausting day/night.

I don't know about stats - to me it looked like Sanderson had loaded Dangerfield, Vince, Van Berlo, Thompson and Sloane into his six shooter pointed and shot - and they performed accordingly.

No reloading necessary.

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