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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:33 pm 
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Ratts has a 2 year contract.

its actually a 1 x 1

hes basically [REDACTED]!!!

The problem is i hear theyre just going to go for Malthouse.

:lol: :hitcomputer:

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:33 pm 
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CARLTON coach Brett Ratten has accused his team of playing as individuals and says the Blues must work together as a team if they're to turn their season around.



Hmmmmmmmm............. who is responsible for this?


The end is nigh.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:35 pm 
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A bunch of A grade pea hearts is what we have at the famous cfc and i dont mean the mighty chelsea!
The worst part is it stems all the way from the top to bottom besides 7 or 8 blokes and its very sad for us all of us, i just cant beleive what has happened over the pre season all these so called A graders beat collingwood and think there F#%%%^ Rockstars!!!
Where kidding ourselves and its seriously a low, low feeling


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:35 pm 
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Navy Blue Horse wrote:
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Surely this has to be rock bottom. I sure faaaaaaaaaarrrrkkkkkkeeeennn hope so...



Next week perhaps

:donk:



For the greater good of the CFC, let's hope so

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:36 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Ratts has a 2 year contract.

its actually a 1 x 1

hes basically !@#$%&!!!

The problem is i hear theyre just going to go for Malthouse.

:lol: :hitcomputer:


... And if Malthouse says no?


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:37 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Ratts has a 2 year contract.

its actually a 1 x 1

hes basically !@#$%&!!!

The problem is i hear theyre just going to go for Malthouse.

:lol: :hitcomputer:


... And if Malthouse says no?


We'll go for Roos.

Then a list of Eade, Laidley, Thompson and Harvey.

The cupboard's bare.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:40 pm 
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I have been sick of the KROOOOOOOOOOOOOZER shit for so long, the dude cant take a mark and i have been saying this all along. 1 mark all day, i reckon his best in a game is about 4. overated like nobody every before



i agree, he is so over rated by carlton supporters it aint funny.
when that second gamer jenkins ran, bounced that ball and kicked that goal , i turned to my bro and said kreuzer should be doin that.
only players today that i thought played ok and tryed were judd, jamo henderson scotto, armfield and bower.
for a team that has so many half back flankers, our half back line is the worst in the league and how are we ever goin to win when everyone is a tagger.

play warnock and give some youngsters a go for the next couple rounds , they cant be worse then duigan, touhy, curnow, russell, hampson, thornton.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:45 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Serious problems at Blue land.

Who would be believe our midfield would...

Gibbs was fantastic.....not

Kreuzer is a RR Warnock is a ruckman

!@#$%& me dead....I know we've got a great core group of individuals,but who is going to synchronise this orchestra?

It is all out of whack.

Jamo gave me the shits in the firt half big time. OK later on.
Armfield tried and got to a lot of contests most of our players were gazing at.
Walker tick, even Betts, like Walker starved, tick...Hendo at CHF, tick, Yazza, tick....clutching...straws...

Nothing nice to say other than I understand why posters feel the way they do, and I hope my signature is fools gold as 99 suggested.

Still, what really scary is that the cupboard is bare for midfielders.
Who comes in for Murphy?
No good.

WE still have good list, Can we turn it around, or rather can Ratts change it to a winning formula?
If he doesn't this year, then he can go.
Get Sanderson!!...oh, he's gone.


I would love Gibbs to prove me wrong and I would love your signature to bear fruit. Right now, I'm not sure of the former and even less sure of the latter.

I don't believe we have a strong list but now is the time to throw some players into the fire (Boots, Buckley and Dale) After that, the cupboard is bare

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:45 pm 
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half back flank and forward line are shyte cos the midfield is shytehouse.

midfield protects the defence and empowers the forward line.

unfortunately .. we wernt paying attention to it... cos we have C Judd.


Absolutely ludicrous situation where we learnt to walk again and then shot ourselves in the foot.

I dont just blame Ratten... i blame all the way up and down

Even with a new coach... he will have to work with a bunch of bananas around the club.

Sticks has been overseeing this club or being part of that for a mighty long time.. and it coincides with shit!!!.. and the guy is still there smelling of roses.

Dunno how shit can smell of roses.. but it does on him.. We must have a bloody big culture problem if thats the case.
It is the case!!

Scary!!

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:46 pm 
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GWS wrote:
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so we evolved into the forward press 2 years after everyone else.
$10 says we'll spend the next 2 pre-seasons 'bulking up' and developing some big bodied hard edged mids for the next wave of footy, only for the innovative sides to become smaller runners and run circles around us

Spot on... I said something similar in another thread.

We have a reactive coaching group and as such are always chasing tail...

What shits me most about today's loss is that's it's been 5 weeks of the same shit

What measures have we taken to combat it?


Those better versed in the finer points of strategy (you there BV?) might be able to enlighten me but I reckon Robbie Walls huddle kick outs may well have been the last time we actually shocked the league with an innovative set play.

That's really a while back now.

Didn't he start the huddle when he coached Fitzroy?

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:47 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Ratts has a 2 year contract.

its actually a 1 x 1

hes basically !@#$%&!!!

The problem is i hear theyre just going to go for Malthouse.

:lol: :hitcomputer:


... And if Malthouse says no?



He would say 'Yes!' in a heartbeat, but is he the right choice?

As has been pointed out by other, the way Ratten got the job was a joke. Other clubs have gone through a thorough process, and whilst it might not have worked for Melbourne, it certainly has for others.

Appointing Malthouse would feel a bit like when we appointed Pagan, but the difference in what our playing list was then, not to mention the club implosion at the time, probably doesn't make it a fair comparison.

Malthouse was an innovator and got his players to combine superbly, and that's the type of coach we need right now.

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:55 pm 
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I don't think I saw Russell or Duigan once take a risk by leaving their opponent and take a running receive off a team mate. All good sides have a strong link from half back to the centre line.

We have a big problem in that we have a truck load we could drop to the two's but a wheelie bin load that we could promote.

This obviously shows up our list management and recruiting.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:56 pm 
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JackWorrall wrote:
Maybe Malthouse isn't the answer, but I've always admired how he had his teams play for each other, with his stint at Collingwood being a shining example. Neither his Grand Final teams of 2002-3, nor his 2010-11 version were star studded, but they gave their all week-in, week-out.

Our list isn't the problem, it's the coaching.


Did you look at the All-Aust side in 10/11? And no not a fan of Malthouse.

To me the list is the biggest problem. Apart from Waite Henderson (who has proved he is more of a defender) and an injured Luke Mitchell we have no other genuine key forwards on the list (and no thats not including the part time forward/ruckman. Thats 3 on a list of just under 50. When you see Essendon* play the have a replacement for any tall that gets injured instead Carlton will play one short.
Our list is full of state league players who have limited improvement. Who is our shut down small defender?
We have talent but we have massive holes on our list and its about time we fixed it or at least started to fix it.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:57 pm 
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dadadadada wrote:
I don't think I saw Russell or Duigan once take a risk by leaving their opponent and take a running receive off a team mate. All good sides have a strong link from half back to the centre line.

We have a big problem in that we have a truck load we could drop to the two's but a wheelie bin load that we could promote.

This obviously shows up our list management and recruiting.


Recruiting strategy is the major problem.

It is beyond belief.

What were these people thinking???

Look all of our players are ok.(Except Watson and Bell )
But we are skinny in the guts..... except those two.... The irony

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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:58 pm 
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The only guys with senior experience who played yesterday were McLean, Joseph and Watson amd Bootsma. Anyone else?

Pretty hard to make many changes and still aim for the top 8. It's either tank, or go with who we know. Definitely stuck between Brock and a hard place at the moment.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 9:58 pm 
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My views and i think i've been fairly consistent with these on this site:
1. Gibbs continues to sleep with the light on. If only he had the courage, guts & determinatin to run himself to exhaustion week in week out like another former croweater unfairly labelled "soft" - C Bradley
2. Warnock needs to come in as our only genuine ruckman.

Other observations:

- Back in 07, 08 & 09 the talk from the CFC was that our young boys had not developed physically. Well judging from todays contest (and over the last month in general) we obvioulsy still have not become "gorillas". The question is why?
- Kreuzer needs to be shopped around. Not a ruckman not a KPP what exactly is he? I thought he might be an oversized ruck rover but unfortunately it appears the game is quickly passing him by. The knee injury may have hastened this. Is he cruising? No just lumbering around.
- Too many of our trades/swaps have not been in our favour. Grigg v Collins, Jacobs v low draft picks, Brock v No. 11 pick.
- Ratts wants to manage our list and mirror want Geelong did last year and rest players. Ha what a joke. He should rest from his coaching duties.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:01 pm 
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Rod Waddell wrote:
My views and i think i've been fairly consistent with these on this site:
1. Gibbs continues to sleep with the light on. If only he had the courage, guts & determinatin to run himself to exhaustion week in week out like another former croweater unfairly labelled "soft" - C Bradley
2. Warnock needs to come in as our only genuine ruckman.

Other observations:

- Back in 07, 08 & 09 the talk from the CFC was that our young boys had not developed physically. Well judging from todays contest (and over the last month in general) we obvioulsy still have not become "gorillas". The question is why?
- Kreuzer needs to be shopped around. Not a ruckman not a KPP what exactly is he? I thought he might be an oversized ruck rover but unfortunately it appears the game is quickly passing him by. The knee injury may have hastened this. Is he cruising? No just lumbering around.
- Too many of our trades/swaps have not been in our favour. Grigg v Collins, Jacobs v low draft picks, Brock v No. 11 pick.
- Ratts wants to manage our list and mirror want Geelong did last year and rest players. Ha what a joke. He should rest from his coaching duties.


Trade Kreuzer?!?!

Now we are just being silly.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:09 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:13 pm 
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What I saw today was half our side sent out to tag opposition players.

Why was robbo tagging Reilly for the whole first half? Is Reilly really that damaging of a player? We were getting smashed in the clearances wouldn't robbo help in the middle??? Not tagging in the forward line???????

Curnow, ellard, armfield and Gibbs all sent out to tag and not try win their own footy???

Gibbs is a gun but has been ruined in the sense that he has been used as a run with tagger for the past 4 years. I watched him closely today and he was more worried about finding his opponent and chasing their tail than getting his own footy.

It is such a stupid defensive mindset ... No wonder our players can win the footy it appears they are being directed to less on getting the footy to tag and chase tail.


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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2012 10:33 pm 
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teagueyubeauty wrote:
We need to be bold right now, get a genuine midfielder in Dangerfield for Gibbs.

He's Victorian bound, Adelaide will get a hard on at the very mention of Gibbs.

We may get lucky, and Adelaide give us their second rounder for our third......


This post just sums up why opposition supporters resent your club and why you have the problems you have now.

First - you're so arrogant that you actually think Gibbs is better than Dangerfield.

Second - you're always after the quick fix. Quick - lets buy this player in - he'll be the saviour.

Well it hasn't worked with Judd and it won't happen with Dangerfield.

This sort of attitude tears at the heart of the club.

I actually think Judd has been your downfall - great player but the over reliance on him has thwarted the development of your younger players.

Try growing your own players for a change and putting some development into a 'team' philosophy - then you might play for each other instead of trying to benefit from each other.


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