..... and Taylor Walker still heads the goal kicking and he didn't even play today

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Part and parcel of being an amateur footy club....copy/paste....

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Let's calm down everyone!

We are 5 and 3 and lost to 2 of the top teams so far in the season.

Yes the way we lost is concerning but as Mick Malthouse said today, we need to focus on our strengths and what we do well rather than change our game plan. We just need to start winning the footy again and their confidence will grow and their form improve.

I agree that the loss of Grigg hurts when you see how he is playing. At the end of the day the facts are that the coach didn't like him and Richmond offered him a 3 year deal.

I am sure some changes will be made next week.

A loss to Melbourne next week will be disastrous however.

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Today's performance along with the other losses this season has determined in my mind that we don't have the list to take us to No.17. We have a coach who has been solid in the past few years, and has lead us out of the doldrums, and we should thank him for that, but I doubt he can do anymore. The game plan is leaking goals like a seave and we are being smashed at what was our strength - midfield dominance.
There need to be changes at Carlton - from board level to football dept. Now who's going to have the balls to do it?

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

anyone know how long murph will miss

We could conceivably be 7 wins and 3 losses after 10 rounds, with Melbourne & PA coming up. This is unbelievable. Probably one of the worst sides ever to achieve such a win loss ratio.

Spot on... I said something similar in another thread.

We have a reactive coaching group and as such are always chasing tail...

What shits me most about today's loss is that's it's been 5 weeks of the same shit

What measures have we taken to combat it?

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I have been sick of the KROOOOOOOOOOOOOZER shit for so long, the dude cant take a mark and i have been saying this all along. 1 mark all day, i reckon his best in a game is about 4. overated like nobody every before

Those better versed in the finer points of strategy (you there BV?) might be able to enlighten me but I reckon Robbie Walls huddle kick outs may well have been the last time we actually shocked the league with an innovative set play.

That's really a while back now.

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wow , dude has the best hands at the club, especially overhead

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

15 goals to three after quarter time.

Sheesh.

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then we really are flower

these posts times a @#$%&! million.

i was gladly taking shit back then thinking that we were stocking up on talent and then everyone would just go WOW.... where the @#$%&! did that come from?
how wrong could i be??

should of seen the signs when ratten and his muppet team of, well muppets, set the bar so low with their shit targets of just making finals one year, then just making finals the next, then winning one lousy final and saying yeah now we are aiming for top 4??? we want the cup ffs not just top 4 or a final, or a home final. the cup!!! thats why we support this club! we want 17 !

@#$%&! off already ratts. its clear 17 aint coming while youre in charge.

get us someone who can whilst we still have the talent on our list!

Maybe we do need to sakc the coach; it worked for the players at Chelsea...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/footba ... -Cech.html



Although, I think we can only hope for our players to have half the resolve of Chelsea FC at the moment.

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Get DI Matteo

The problem for me is not our playing list. Gibbs is an outstanding footballer. Cur now and Duigan played some damn good football last year. Kreuzer is going to be an outstanding ruckman. Ellard and Joseph have been good players.

Ratten today blamed the players for not combining as a team.

Well Ratts, here's a news flash: it's your job to get them playing as a unit. Nice to see you sitting in the coaching box today, but you were sitting up the back, yet again not leading.

Maybe Malthouse isn't the answer, but I've always admired how he had his teams play for each other, with his stint at Collingwood being a shining example. Neither his Grand Final teams of 2002-3, nor his 2010-11 version were star studded, but they gave their all week-in, week-out.

Ratten is not a leader, he's one of the boys, and he wants to be mates with his players. It doesn't work.

Our list isn't the problem, it's the coaching.

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Appointing an inexperienced coach Like Ratts with what appears to be no process, no clear requirements, was always fraught, but now Ratts can show what he can do. Things are pear shaped, let's see how he gets us out of it. It is actually an opportunity for him to show he can coach at this level.

I don't think he should have been appointed but look beyond the coach. Who made the decision, who was involved in appointing and sacking Britts and Pagan, who spruiked our recruiting of Steven O'Reilly etc -Sticks. He's a great Carlton man but his track record, off the field, is questionable. Look at him if we look at the coach. And for god's sake let's not compound one bad appointment with another. We don't want that miserable misanthrope Malthouse. How about we get into the new century and have a proper process that gets us the best people for jobs, and not just take the easy way and recruit a big name has been or an ex team mate.

Ratts has a contract and should serve it out, and if he has failed at the end of that then maybe those who appointed him, and offered various contract extensions, should be held responsible.

Was hoping Murph going off would be the catalyst for a turn around.

Until then, he'd been absolutely towelled by Van Berlo. Simply, Van Berlo has one of the best workrates in the AFL. Murphy's is below average. That was the difference.

The dark irony of it all, is that he did his shoulder going for his own ball for the first time all day. Until then, he was doing his best Scott Camporeale circa 2003 impersonation, chasing backwards handballs, and flapping arms around looking for free kicks. Worst thing that ever happened to his game was becoming a protected specie from the umpires.

No doubt we'll get some article, bragging about attempting to play through it or "trying to take one of theirs with me" and how he plans to get back ahead of schedule. No substance, whatsoever, has Murph.

Best of luck to Brock. This is your time to step up. Might be time to move Scotland into the guts also.

Walker further up the ground was OK. Thin line between selfish play and trying to take ownership never seemed so thin. If some of the things he tried today came off, he would have been our best. Without him in the forward line, we need a Collins type there instead though.

No real want to see Russell, Curnow and Duigan for a while either. Hope Bucks gets a go next week. Right now, turning up next week essentially hinges on positive selection moves.

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