Sydney last year in Sydney and Freo two weeks back. They were two dog and we won.

so you guys can remember us beating two games in a dogfight all up and they ranked below us?

that's pretty good!

now the dog fights we lost!

remember any of those?

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I agree with this.

I think the players are too often given excuses or, as is being discussed, other aspects where we have beaten opponents—scoring from stoppages in this case—are used to make the guys feel like they still did well

On the whole, I think the general direction is reasonably sound. However, if we've been well beaten, as we were against the Saints, really, then we should own up to that and not excuse it or hide it in any way.

Own the poor performances, don't shy away from them, and acknowledge that we need to get better.

I was also a bit disappointed to hear Lachie say the Saints are a good side etc etc. Whether that's true or not is irrelevant, I'd much rather the players say in public: "You know what, we were well beaten by a side that, no disrespect, we should have won against. That's not good enough, we didn't work hard enough, and we'll be giving our all to put things right next week."

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Just answered your question.

Overall you would have to agree with the tactics i put forward.

If we are not good enough to win the dogfight in a clogged midfield then we are not going to win any games so its best we start engaging in the dogfights and see what we are capable of.
As it has been we have been playing too risky inside. Trying too hard to get it out into space with players taking risks possibly brought on by frustration.
We are all pretty convinced that is not the way forward. So lets work on halving the dogfight and seeing where that gets us.

The better ball handlers and users in the back half surely make sense to anyone who watched us last week. We had a terrible balance. The ball hits the deck and we were stuffed. When the other team counter we couldnt keep up. Too lumbery.

IMO these ideas will stop at least 6 goals against. Thats a start. The next plan would be to find a way to score ourselves that doesnt involve trying to rush the ball out of the bubble into space for our pace to take over as we know the clog tactic is killing that idea. There are ways we can do that but it all starts with winning the dogfight. That is what we need to learn how to do.

Dunno about the blueprint for beating Carlton, but the blueprint for beating many TC'ers, would be, employ Synners to evangelise endlessly and without mercy upon those who actually like the players and the coach.

Hey Synners, I think yer mum just called. Your dinner's ready.
See ya Monday mebbe?
Also, psychiatrists aren't that bad to vent upon. They even give you nice drugs if you're lucky. They are also really good listeners. Sure you have to pay them, but, you could go on for hours without interference.
In fact, I might know a few people who'd be happy to chip in, and help with the bills.

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the TC ball is up for grabs, bg, don't shy away from the contest, fight for possession and kick a goal !

I love doing what I do here!

I am soothed!
I do drink some wine but rarely beer I have cigarettes but don't pot. I drink coffee but outside of that I never take any kind of pill or medicine.
no pain killers no anti biotic of any kind and I try to keep check of my sugar intake!



I don't know why people feel the need to tell people when they can be here or what they should type!

they can easily not read!


now run along and play with your dolls!

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It's all in their heads.
They win a few games and listen to the media.
They have been playing selfish and lazy football lately.
They again haven't done the selfless acts to make a team just the individual.
By this I mean no gut running, pretend chasing, no sheparding.
They would give their direct opponent two three meters and not man up, lazy.
They run off for the eazy receive even before we had control of the ball, selfish.
Cluter the forward line and not give each other space, glory hounds.
Back to team footy.
You win together and lose together end of story.

You asked a question and I answered it.
Tht game might have been during the prolonged Easter break which is probably why you forgot.

Thanks woof.
We won 2 scraps you can remember and neither against sides up there.

Were not that great at scrapping is my point.

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A few years ago we scrapped some good character wins by coming from behind, so we had a lot of confidence doing that. ie Game against Port Adelaide in SA where Kruzeur starred in the rain. Last year and so far this year, we have not really come from behind and had a good win. This is why when we are losing I dont have any faith in us as we crumble under the pressure.

I think we need to have a good strong fought out narrow win for our confidence.

They tried to get back into it late in both the games we've lost but our opponents were able to stifle our charge both times.

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The sides that are up there don't need to scrap.

You need to lighten up a little bit sinners. We had a loss, its going to happen. We've shown steady improvement year on year. We'll be playing finals this year and who knows how far we may go.

This

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Agree with all this, Club.
When we come to play, we're right up there as a top 2 team. The SCG Swans game and Subi final last year are great examples. Yes, we have too many who get ahead of themselves and I for one wish Jeffy would lose those flowering orange boots! Get back to that forward pressure, son.

Laidler loss is cruel as he is a superb, composed and flexible defender when fit (forget Bombers game after he was injured) - our best defender, arguably.

Best back 6 IMHO is:

Tuohy, Jamo, Laidler
Yazz, Hendo, Gibbs/Russell

The on-baller we miss is Carrots, such a reliable ball winner and now arguably the AFL's best tagger. No coincidence we played our best footy first 3 rounds with him in the team, we were just feasting on his clearance work, a stat we've been lamentable at lately. But that's footy, and we need the likes of Lucas to step up in the next few weeks to fill that void.

Last week we had both Murph and Simmo at about 17 possies each, with no Carrots we won't beat many of the better teams with this happening.

Right on!

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We are more than capable of a good scrap when we feel we are playing an opposition we are not expected to stroll to victory against.

Complacency/maturity/consistency of effort is our biggest problem at the moment. I don't think we need a reinvention of the game plan, more tweaking to combat some new things being thrown at us.

I think the whole beat up about us after the Collingwood game didn't help us one bit, but that is our problem, shouldn't start playing like millionaires because of it.

I actually think the fact everyone has seemed to not rate Essendon* as highly has helped them stay focused and grounded. Be interesting to see how they go this week as they are now being talked up as a legitimate top side.

People say media/public expectation makes no difference, but you have a bunch of young guys who hear everything, its definitely going to have an impact. We just have to become more mature to ignore it and stick to the fundamentals.

Good post

nice try but totally untrue!

cats scrapped a win countless times last year and won the flag!

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