So 7 games vs the first 7 games of last season?

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Touhy, Henderson and Hampson are playing career best football right now.

Bower has gone backwards since 2009 and should not be on the list, let alone be getting a game.

Don't think I disagreed about Touhy, Henderson or Hampson.

Bower is getting a game on merit and is starting to take the game on again, breaking lines and regaining some confidence. He's improved out of sight on his last 2 seasons (even kk would concede this given the low base he's coming from) and is fast recapturing his 2009 form.

This is Mike Sheehan stuff from you. Write your article and then manipulate the analysis to suit it.

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Tuohy's last month has been ordinary. A reflection of the team.

Hampson and Henderson are the obvious two.

Gibbs and duigan the obvious ones who have gone backwards.

The rest have just stagnated. How can you include Ellard on the list when he played his first game on Monday as a sub and came on and gave us a spark with 3 goals? How do you say Laidler has gone backwards when his first three games were solid and he went down with an injury? Bizzare to say these players have gone backwards...

And if we win on Sunday bet half that list would suddenly change spots. All depends on fragile emotional states that vary with wins and losses.

One reason I generally ignore alot of threads and posts after a loss because generally smart people suddenly talk perspectiveless emotional sh1t that quickly changes the next week after a good win.

Season is 22 rounds. You have great games, good games, average games and a couple of real crappy ones. That includes our premiership years.

I thought Synbad had a thread on this.

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Ellard played in the GWS game Dan. Was largely ineffective and regularly second to the ball.

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This is why we will struggle to win a premiership this year.

We fall away badly around players 16-30 on our list. Judd, Murphy, Kruezer, Simpson etc can't do anymore.

For the past few years we have been doing the same thing. Playing Russell, Armfield, Bower, McLean, Bower, Curnow, waiting for them to take the next step.Put simply they won't!!!!

Guys like Robinson, Henderson, Touhy, Laidler Have.

It is now time to play guys like Bootsma, Buckley, McCarthy, Watson, Dale, Collins, Lucas, Kerr, Davies, Casboult (when fit) to fill these spaces and gain the experience. They couldn't do any worse and playing in a poor Bullants side isn't helping their development.

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So???

Were rebuilding again!!!???

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too early to put the cue in the rack and 'play the kids'

the opposition aren't flash either - if we can implement variations to our play we still may be able to get close this year - don't chuck in the cards just yet

Where did I say "put the cue in the rack or rebuilding"???

What I am saying is that we have a core group that are as good as anyone but we fall away badly after that.

Look at it like this:

B: Touhy Jamison Laidler
HB: Yarran Henderson Gibbs

C: Simpson Robinson Scotland
Foll: Kruezer Judd Murphy

HF: Garlett Thornton Walker
F: Betts Hampson Waite

Int: Carrazzo Ellard? Duigan?

That is fairly close to our best line up and one I believe that can challenge any other side. After that its a real toss up. We really struggle when we get a few injuries and at the moment we are missing Laidler, Carrazzo & Waite and will get Yarran back tomorrow.

With rotations the way they are you need contributions from ALL 22 players. How long have we been playing Russell, Bower, Armfield, Joseph etc and expecting improvement? They tease every so often but are NOT consistent contributors. We are talking about players that have been on our list for years!

Why not give youngsters (not all at once) game time? I am sure they can contribute as much as the others and will gain experience. Have the above line up and play Bootsma, Dale, Buckley, Lucas, Davies, Collins, Kerr etc especially as a sub.

Look at how so many players have contributed to GWS in their first year. If they were with us they would be sitting playing crap footy in the Northern Blues.

Look at the last few premiers. There are so many stories of first year or new players contributing. Think Duncan, Menzel, Fasolo & Blair.

IMO we have given these guys enough opportunities. Time to try others, it couldn't be any worse.

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our young players rot in the ressies that's the problem, no one can improve because they never get a senior game, or it takes them 5 years to improve coming off the bench for 5 min spells, henderson is the one that stands out hampson slightly but still not a great player.
Thats about it, people saying carazzo, yeah he played well until he got injured but would like to see him when the heat is on like it is at the moment.

He did?

Well most of the team was off in that game, they were in 1st gear and turned up with the wrong attitude, so its difficult to really gauge who has improved or hasn't improved based on the GWS game.

I thought Ellard's intro on Monday night gave us a spark, albeit a very short one, and he is usually pretty solid and consistent, without being spectacular, yet keeps finding it difficult to stay in the team ahead of some players who continue to deliver very little.

I completely disagree.........












kk wouldn't concede this!

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Yeah, but Jimmae could've given us as good a spark as Ellard on Monday night. He said so himself, and you can't argue with facts like that!

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Watching Essendon* tonight is making me think about our lack of improvement as a team this year.

Gibbs should be taking a tape to bed of Brent Stanton if he wants to see how hard work pays off. Gibbs is never going to be a hard in and under player like Joel Selwood but if he could improve his aerobic capacity then he could be a damaging outside player with gut running ability to run his opponents into the ground.

Watching Richmond tonight Shaun Grigg is improving as the season goes on. Turns and snaps from 50 for a goal, nice effort. 3 goals at least once this season. There's you flanker turning into a mid. You think if Judd can drop a lazy 0.5M or whatever it was on evil poker machines then Carlton could have found a way to keep Grigg in the Navy Blue.