Not at all.

That he earns income from playing the game is public knowledge.

There's no problem with Judd having an investment in a gambling operation if it's out in the open but when you're talking about an industry which preys on the vulnerable it's appropriate that the public is aware of who gains from society's losses.

I could be wrong but the original article suggests the structure was put in place in a way to hide Judd's involvement. There may or may not not be a legal issue there but I think there's an ethical one and if there wasn't he probably wouldn't have gone to the effort to hide it.



It's not the end of the world but it's not pretty and he probably doesn't need defending.

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I was under the impression that some people here felt Judd earning any money directly or indirectly was an ethical issue.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Couldn't care less where Judd puts his own money.

My only concern in this matter is whether there are any salary cap implications which doesn't seem the case.

Poor judgement though, surely someone knew you must declare your identity in such investments. A whole lot of unnecessary bad press...

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Juddy is entitled do what-ever he likes with his money, just like the rest of us!

Not me. I could not give a flying flower.
It's his money, he can do what ever he wants.

for those interested, here's the decision:

http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/vic/VCC/2012/47.html

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Judd loaned/invested half a mil in a company and asked that his involvement be kept confidential. The company invested in a hotel that has pokies. Judd is informed that his investment can't be kept confidential due to the gaming regulations and he then asks for his money back.

That's how I've had it explained to me.

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This story reminds me of the line "A little knowledge is dangerous."

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"The old believe everything, the middle-aged suspect everything, and the young know everything." Oscar Wilde

Good to hear he's got his money back.

Might have got some extra with a term deposit...

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Give the guy a break - he will learn - he won't hit his business prowress until he is 45 or so he isnt even 30 yet,

You'd be happy for the captain of your football club to invest in the manufacture of kiddie porn?

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Since when is investing in pokies illegal? Not worth replying too but I just couldn't resist.

It's not illegal but you have to disclose your interest on a register. He didn't and that's why there's a legal question.

It may be that Judd was completely unaware of what the money was going to be used for but considering his levels of application to the other things he does in his life that strikes me as highly unlikely.

As I said before I don't think it's the end of the world and the comparison with kiddie porn was simply to refute the suggestion that what he does with his money is of no interest but he's the figurehead of the club and what he does reflects upon it.

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The hole you are digging has just got bigger.

AFL Website today. AFL investigating a deal between Judd and Board member for $500K. Is it that serious ? Geez Carlton are the only ones with 3rd party deals.......

..money was invested prior to the other person becoming a board member.. ..i think he's gotten his cash back now as well, so not sure if there's any overlap timing wise..

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Beat up.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

The AFL is probably just making sure, there was no special deal where Judd got more than he was entitled to from a Carlton board member.
If he did, then the club is in deep do-do

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500,000 in and 500,000 out means he lost money.

FYI, you don't necessarily get your money back in every business investment. Sometimes you actually lose dollars not just potential income.
If the stake was worth $500k on a legitimate valuation when he cashed in, there'll be no problem. It was worth $400k, then there's trouble.

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