I was disappointed he went public. They should have kept it all in-house and palyed it back to them mid august to refresh the players minds.

And yes, I'm going for those filthy stinking rancid magpies as well.

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Agree, I was disappointed we didn't show more spine. But I'm holding out hope we'll make up for it for the rest of the season and especially against Essendon* next time.

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seriously if we go out to focus on injuring the opposition ourselves we may as well not turn up

Essendon* will always try and belt us, ever since sheedy manufacturred the rivalary between the two clubs when he moved his hated of Carlton from Richmond to Essendon*

nothing wrong with being hard at the footy and hard tackling / blocking / shepherding etc, but tactics focussing on deliberating injuring opposition players is not on

that is from a bygone era which thankfully is nearly behind us (other than in some metro and country leagues)

we should focus on what we know wins games - if the opposition want to go outside that, so be it, but we dont have blokes who are capable of that outside of being at times reckless eg Robbo

i just want our boys to be switched on, not worry about their own media and play the game as hard as possible - this will win us games, maybe Loneghan who is an average footballer is just an average tackler??? Maybe, maybe not........

PS - pretty piss weak if we have supporters getting on twitter and threatening Loneghan

Seems like supporters are trying to make up for our players. I don't approve of this either - just saying, frustration within the supporter group has peaked this week. Lets see what the players do from now on people and leave this crap for onfield!

Not so much deliberately injure them, but hit them harder. Make them hurt. We need teams to fear us physically as they do Hawthorn and Geelong. Until we do this the opposition will continue to bully us as they did on Saturday. Hawthorn have been doing it for years

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If the person or persons who made those threats on twitter are Carlton members, I hope the club withdraws their memberships and bans them from ever holding one again, I also hope if the person or persons belong to this forum, that the mods remove them permantly.

It is one thing to be passionate about your team, which all of us on this board are, but it is another thing to be threatening violence against football players, it makes the rest of us look bad and is truly pathetic behavior.

I have looked at the incident several times and I think it was a free kick at worst.

To the twitter clowns, get you heads out of your asses, there are many other things going on in the world worthy of that type of anger, if the situation had been the other way and it was an Essendon* player that got injured, we all would have said that it was just bad luck.

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I agree with you 100%

Its a shame some of those Essendon* scum supporters dont share your same views.

I've had a couple of Scum supporters congratulate Lonergan on a job well done on Carrazzo !!!

With one low life throwing in, "just wish it happened to Judd"


Why would one wish that on any player ?

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Yes mate... it's not about going out to deliberately injure the opposition, it's the perception or fear that we might. It's the niggle, the extra attention in a tackle etc that will force their opponent to cough up the ball, the perceived pressure if you like.

I honestly believe that we'll never win a premiership unless we instill this facet into our game. Might get away with it in H/A but the opposition will never allow us to play bruise free flashy football come the business end of the season.

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Don't panic.

Our players just need a bit of anxiety to perform at their best. We were just a bit too relaxed and then struggled to get back into it

Combined with injuries we shrunk just enough and the Bombers got a big snif. We did everything we could (except kick goals) in the third and then it was too late.

Won't happen again.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

Let's hope it never gets to this ...

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/76386 ... m-nfl-says

With the guys flying the flag for Carrazzo I honestly think that at the time they saw it as a tackle (gone wrong) and continued on their way. You don't react every time a guy gets tackled. Had he been king hit then the story would have been different. Perhaps viewing a replay of the incident after the game some of the guys probably thought to themselves gee that was crude !! ....... hence some of the comments.

As for threats on Lonergran ...... time for that s#1t to stop .... should never have started

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That was tongue in cheek.

Lonergan's tackle wasn't a patch on Montagna being suspended for bumping an injured Curnow.

It would have been silly if our players had targeted Montagna 18 weeks later to try and right a wrong.

I hate Essendon* so much.

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So do I

I think the AFL are on the right course trying to ensure the rules are interpreted in such a way as to protect players from serious injuries. No one wants to see any player, however hated, with a serious long term injury. It's a sickening aspect of the game.

I still have vivid memories of the Carl vs Rich game in ?2002 when Kouta did an ACL after getting entangled with Matthew Knights (pure accident). All of us felt sick watching Kouta being loaded onto a stretcher, but one Richmond supporter stood and started cheering !! That bloke was lucky to get out of the MCG alive that day as we all turned on him

Its a brutal game and becoming more brutal even though most of the outright thuggery has been taken out of the game. It's a wonder no one has been killed. (yet)

Slam tackles like the Lonergan hit are little different from sling tackles or sliding in low to take the body in regard to capacity to hurt and need to be looked at. Some might think this is soft to further scrutinize tackling, but in my view this is inevitable and correct.

And those Essendon* scum who thought Carrazzo being badly hurt was something to celebrate need to have a serious look at themselves.

Great to see Lonergan running in to kick a sitter in the last quarter today and missing

I agree threats on twitter are ridiculous.
And just to clarify, I'm not so much angry about the tackle itself but more the Essendon* players reaction to it and the injury.
Wouldn't have had so much of a problem with Lonergan and the scum players if there had have been some sort of message of support of well wishing to Carrots. From all reports they were pretty happy with themselves.

On a side note, absolutely pumped to see those &*#%$ go down today. Can't believe I was cheering for Collingwood

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Mmm, Lindsay Thomas was very apologetic to Rohan after his tribunal hearing last night.

Didn't hear a word from anyone at the Scum except Hird saying it was "unfortunate that Andrew broke his collarbone".

Yeah......and it was also ''unfortunate'' that Jason Johnson jumped head on into Kouta and stuffed Kouta's knee; (reportable today) and not only stuffed his career; but probably cost him a Brownlow, as Kouta was at the absolute height of his too short career at the top..................

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

I wish people would watch that tackle and look at it properly it was lonegans swinging arm that cracked his shoulder not the drive into the deck
He cracked him accross the shoulder but he was trying to belt his head
The front on view shows it clearly

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

That was the semi final in 2001.

& it wasn't just one Richmond supporter

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