Con

- Robinson's third man act where he launches himself into the ruck contest and cannons into our valuable ruckmen. Dumb footy. Smashed Hammer in the orchestras in round one, yet he hasn't learnt from it. Mitch needs to improve his awareness after he nearly took out Judd in a similar contest.

Pros:
First quarter was sublime; oh Judd, my Judd
Kreuzer and Hammer forging a formidable combo
Great team performance
Jamo becoming more versatile, still a way to go, but good signs
Carrots on Pendlebury, magnificent
Maturity and self-belief on the up and up

Cons:
No cameras on McGuire in last quarter
Meedyah hype will be out of control now
We can't play them every week, haha

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Oh, one more Pro I had forgotten about...

Chris Judd special guest On the couch on Monday night.

Tissues at the ready lads.

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Pros
Everything

Cons
Channel 7. It's not the commentators I mind. It's those ridiculous ground level close ups that cut in and out of play. But what was worse last night was that almost every centre bounce was missed because they were either showing a replay too long, or showing some inconsequential shot of a coach or player doing nothing in particular. Infuriating. I was at the game and marvelled at our ruckman's dominance at the centre bounces. I was so impressed I wanted to focus on this when I watched the replay. But I hardly saw one centre bounce. By the time 7 actually showed the live footage we had already cleared the ball. Happened many, many times.

Anyway, other than that, I am over the moon this morning!

Pros:

Best Mid Field in the league
Best Defense in the league
Best Small Forwards in the league
Best Ruck trio in the league

Cons

No cons when you belt Collingwood.

Are you going to be crying?

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Pros:
Loved our third qtr

Reminded me of the good old days


Cons:

Not fair to mention any

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I can only think of one pro...
'TAKE THAT'

Dumb move from Murph.

But must have been incredibly satisfying, haha.

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Pros:
1. 3rd week in a row that the whole team contributed equally.
2. Carrazzo & Scotland - I don't remember seeing any players that peak at such a late stage of their career. They are playing the best footy of their lives. They are ahead of Simpson and Gibbs. Our fab 4 in the middle would be Judd, Murphy, Carrazzo and Scotland.
3. The in-and-under, below the knees contests were absolutely brilliant.
4. Waite was great in the forward. Together with Betts and Garlett.
5. Kreuzer and Hampson ruck combo.
6. Duigan moves pretty well, great come back from injuries.
7. Pendlebury got shut down very well.
8. Laidler was solid down back.

Cons:
1. Jamison is a little bit rusty.
2. Probably better to have another tall marking forward.

yep. and we've got to put up with 5 years of this amateurish stuff.

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Waite's lack of second efforts are just incredibly frustrating. If his first effort actually stuck, which they used to, it wouldn't be such a problem.

Since Synbad pointed it out, its annoying to watch him go to ground every time to avoid making a second effort.


My biggest pro of the night was Armfield's game. Becoming like a mini-Simpson for us. His run and carry is exceptional.

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Clearance work like last week was phenomenal.

Players look extremely hungry/desperate for success.

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What a cracking win!! Just happy to see Jamo on the park. Remembering he was probably the All Australian full back last year before injury robbed him and us. Give the guy some game time and he will come good, real good. We are blessed with Henderson who can also fill that role and hasn’t he grown into a complete player. One year ago he would not have been able to towel up Cloke. Just be patient with Jamo there is stacks of upside there for us. There are so many pros, so few cons.

Just a question though - who goes out for Walker? How does Warnock get back in?

Well, 10 of them stuck. He also missed a bit of the preseason.

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PROS
Anihalated them in the ruck
Flogged them in the middle
Lesser lights Armfield and Tuohy terrific
Hendo continues to establish himslef as a top class defender
Carrazzo great
Judd is one of the greatest few players to wear the navy blue. Murph is really good. Judd is great.
Collingwood look like a side on the slide

CONS
Ironically, tho it might seem curmudgeonly, I thought our midfield dominance showed up our forward weakness. We couldn't dominate in the middle any more than we did tonight. The Pies didn't have Tarrant, Reid was gone early, Maxwell was rusty and Keefe has played about 5 games yet we struggled to get any genuine contested marks in the forward half. Hammo is a good second ruck and handy when resting but he is not a key forward. Waite is a handy third floating tall but flies from behind and is not a power forward. When we are using Jammo and Bower as forwards it suggests we have a problem with tall forwards. In games where we don't run riot in the middle will we struggle to kick goals. We still rely way too much on Eddie Betts as a marking option. He creates a good mismatch but shouldn't be a key forward. If only we had of been able to unload Fev on WCE and kept you know who. I also can't fathom why we didn't pay out McLean and delist him. He won't get another game and I would rather Setanta still on our list as a back up when our tall forward stocks are so thin. This seems negative, but we are in a position to challenge for a flag. Little things will count for a lot

1, Lucas in the short term, one of Curnow or Armfield in the long term.
2, He doesn't.

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Two tackles.

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Don't really want to get involved with yoy Rhino, but this comment needs some balanced discussion and Waite needs to be defended here imo.

Do you really believe that comment you just made?

Did Waite tell you that? How do you know he did it to avoid making a second effort? Because Synbad says so?

IMO that is a terrible thing to brand someone with after such a great team performance.

If Waite couldn't lay the tackle in the forwardline another 5-6 Carlton players did. His 2 tackles were not a problem.
First in best dressed. It was a procession. He did plenty and played his role in a 10 goal win.
Our forwardline with Waite in it in 2012 is potent and has scored strongly in the first 3 rounds.

How many shots at goal has Waite had in the first 3 rounds this year?
How many goal assists has he been party to in the first 3 rounds?
How many spoils did he make when he didn't take the mark against the Pies and in the other 2 games?
Did the Pies or fleet footed Carlton smalls take advantage of the Waite aerial contests?

Waite is the best we've got for the CHF role. He's helped us since overcoming injury over the preseason.
His running game (for a big man) is exceptional. Covers plenty of ground, especially for a guy who has had an interupted preseason.

I'm so proud of Waite and his effort thus far. Very very important player in our team.

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