We're dead set stupid if we make more than one of those moves.

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lay off the juice man jeez

where did i say i valued his comments so highly?

i just said they were fair

if Richmond are going to beat us again and break the streak , now is a pretty good time for them to do it

no need to get riled up about his comments, nothing provocative about them at all

i think you need to get more air or sunshine or something

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I wouldn't be against us selecting this line up

B: Touhy Henderson Davies
HB: Yarran Bower Gibbs
C: Simpson Curnow Scotland
HF: Garlett Thornton Robinson
F: Betts Waite Rowe
Foll: Kreuzer Judd Murphy

Int: Hampson Carrazzo Lucas Sub: Russell

If they get on a roll, Gibbs' ability to be a loose man in defence and steady the ship would be a fair move with Laidler, Jamison and Duigan out.

It would be a surprise to see Rowe play after a four/five day break. Appears to have the mobility to play on a Miller. Would also stretch their backline.

Surrey when you have the support of your surrounding team mates they make time for you.
Judd was an outside player to begin with, Murphy by his own admission also.
They have taken their respective games to higher levels in recent times.
Robbo is an inside player but is learning the art of time and release.
Simmo can do both. The more adaptive they are the more valuable the team becomes.
When you show your players how to play as a team you become less reliante on any particular player and become a way rounded team.
The support of your team mates and the teachings of your coach is what makes individual skills and traits into a well adjusted footballer.

I, like a lot of posters, was feeling pessimistic about our chances this week, but the closer we get the more confident i am.. I thought complacency was going to be our biggest problem, but with the lack of respect we are getting, i doubt this will be an issue.

Somehow aiming for a top four spot, and making our feelings known about it is a sign that we are getting ahead of ourselves. We did finish 5th last year, so a natural improvement would logically mean 4th or better. Yet a little known North player makes the same goal for his club public, and there is no derision, despite them not even making the 8.

Now Richmond, who we have owned for the last 4-5 years, is favored by most (notably not the bookmakers though) to win on Thursday night..Give me a break...Miller, Nahas, Vickery are somehow match winners? Bookmark it..Eddie will kick 6 and we will win comfortably.. They have not been able to stop our smalls and i dont expect them to start doing so this week...

I agree but that lineup at the top of this page looks tall and immobile. If we go with that there has been a major change in philosophy over the summer. The rotations and the extra run would be thrown out the window in favour of a taller stronger lineup.

Can't see it happening. If Rowe plays Hampson will surely miss out. No need for Davies if T Bird plays and Russ is a better option than Davies at this stage anyway.

At least JR showed some urgency against North - but really, he's struggling in my book along with Davies

Hampson was bloody disappointing against North I thought - wouldn't be surprised if they looked to another tall

I don't think Rowe should be picked for this week, but if he is, he should play back on Vickery, with T-bird forward.

A forwardline of

HF: T-Bird, Waite, rotating mid
F: Betts, Hampson, Garlett

is way more dangerous than anything Richmond could field.

Tuohy Hendo T-Bird
Yarran Bower Scotland
Simmo Judd Lucas
Carrots Waite Garlett
Betts Hammer Gibbs

Kreuzer Curnow Murphy

Inter: Armfield, JR, Robbo
Sub: AJ


Robbo must be on the underdone side, so he'll probably start on the bench - possibly even as Sub. I've got AJ, coming off a 5 day break from the VFL game yesterday, as Sub, but it wouldn't surprise me if the MC go with Davies.

Interesting no debutants this year in Round 1.

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That's ok, there's plenty talking them up

I'm anxious already. Going to be hell waiting until Thurs.

I stand by my previous comments. Even with our outs, we are still fielding a reasonably strong team. While I expect Richmond to give a good account of themselves and it certainly won't be a walk in the park, I'll be livid if we don't get the four points.

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We're going to account for them comfortably.

Either that or we'll belt the @#$%&! bejesus out of them.

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If rowe is picked ahead of hammo as 2nd ruck then hammo is really in trouble. Rowe needs to be matchfit and ready to go. I think he would be vying for tbird's spot as a full fwd with Waite chf. Based on the likely side above, this is going o be a tough night. If Collins is fit, he is a chance, I'd have him in

Why did you put an "n" into Thorton?

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wrestling a few blokes inside every game run him into the ground much faster and end his career off much sooner.

thats what happens

its shouldnt be about judd it should be shared and rotated

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Everyone should just calm down.
We'll most likely lose due to all these new players such as Thorton, Yarren, and Tuoey.

I think the best thing to do would be hand overthe PP keys to Synners, and Malthouse. Hec, we could probably get Rossy Lyin' if we offer enough dough. Or Rootsy.

We're just not good enough. We suck.

Gibbsy, and Murph couldn't make it on to Lethal and Malthouse's Master Player List.

Nothing is going right.

ooh..ya know who'd be a good coach?

Michael Caine.

Imagine how fun it'd be when they broadcast the pre match speech.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Carrazzo is the only bloke that I have seen work Judd's opponent over.

But surely playing the way we are now is his best bet. It may shorten his career due to injury but the other option will shorten it due to him not being effective as time goes on.
I reckon he loves the tough stuff. He can handle himself.
I agree with the shared roles. That is the way. Only started on this point because it was implied earlier that we have no inside mids. We have Judd. One of the best inside mids ever.

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