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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:44 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 8:48 pm 
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From the 25 who played the Roos on Sunday, Joseph, McLean and Watson are named to play VFL on Saturday.

However, Collins has not been named.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:06 pm 
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Stamos wrote:
From the 25 who played the Roos on Sunday, Joseph, McLean and Watson are named to play VFL on Saturday.

However, Collins has not been named.


Expect Collins to be on our injury list some time next week.....

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:06 pm 
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Stamos wrote:
From the 25 who played the Roos on Sunday, Joseph, McLean and Watson are named to play VFL on Saturday.

However, Collins has not been named.


:lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:07 pm 
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Synbad wrote:

I thought Irish provided a contest and as a depth player and cover player did well.
we know the Irishman makes mistakes as he came from Ireland as a twenty year old and played hurling and skills were actually better than many two hundred cms talls going around.
his contest at the football and his efforts can never be questioned!

what's the excuse for John Nicholls winner carrots?

still, I would rather a tall with the fitness skills and competitive nature of Irish in the game than a vanilla small with woeful skills and on a pretty big wicket!

but it's early doors and they know best



Not sure what your issue is with Carrazzo. Shows plenty of heart and his commitment to the contest can not be questioned.


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 22, 2012 10:27 pm 
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Roy wrote:
Synbad wrote:

I thought Irish provided a contest and as a depth player and cover player did well.
we know the Irishman makes mistakes as he came from Ireland as a twenty year old and played hurling and skills were actually better than many two hundred cms talls going around.
his contest at the football and his efforts can never be questioned!

what's the excuse for John Nicholls winner carrots?

still, I would rather a tall with the fitness skills and competitive nature of Irish in the game than a vanilla small with woeful skills and on a pretty big wicket!

but it's early doors and they know best



Not sure what your issue is with Carrazzo. Shows plenty of heart and his commitment to the contest can not be questioned.



Definitely has a proven set of nads on him.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:01 am 
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Synbad wrote:
woof wrote:
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I was a huge supporter of the kinds of efforts the Irishman made.
good on the ground. competitive and still provided a target. execution was not always great but was unpredictable enough that the small indigenous forwards had the reflexes to capitalise first.

will be a bigger loss than most people could believe


You were too focussed on Carrazzo in that WCE final which blinded you from having a closer look at Setanta.

I thought Irish provided a contest and as a depth player and cover player did well.
we know the Irishman makes mistakes as he came from Ireland as a twenty year old and played hurling and skills were actually better than many two hundred cms talls going around.
his contest at the football and his efforts can never be questioned!

what's the excuse for John Nicholls winner carrots?

still, I would rather a tall with the fitness skills and competitive nature of Irish in the game than a vanilla small with woeful skills and on a pretty big wicket!

but it's early doors and they know best


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 9:18 am 
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Synbad wrote:
woof wrote:
Synbad wrote:
I was a huge supporter of the kinds of efforts the Irishman made.
good on the ground. competitive and still provided a target. execution was not always great but was unpredictable enough that the small indigenous forwards had the reflexes to capitalise first.

will be a bigger loss than most people could believe


You were too focussed on Carrazzo in that WCE final which blinded you from having a closer look at Setanta.

I thought Irish provided a contest and as a depth player and cover player did well.
we know the Irishman makes mistakes as he came from Ireland as a twenty year old and played hurling and skills were actually better than many two hundred cms talls going around.
his contest at the football and his efforts can never be questioned!

what's the excuse for John Nicholls winner carrots?

still, I would rather a tall with the fitness skills and competitive nature of Irish in the game than a vanilla small with woeful skills and on a pretty big wicket!

but it's early doors and they know best


They know better than a bitter and twisted keyboard warrior like you. :wink:

For the record, loved Carlos out there in the navy blue, but don't ever question the competitive nature of Carrots. Ever noticed he's the one gut running in the last quarter when others want to lie down?? A born and bred blueboy who cherishes the jumper.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:09 am 
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So the Tigers are going to go tall..

I remember they did this last year.

Vickey is a better player than last year. Reiwoldt is Reiwoldt. Miller... LMFAO how can you spruik such a spud.

Still, Carlton's midfield is 10/10 where Richmond's is 5/10 at best (because of two players).

If we work hard enough in the middle, we should win.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:12 am 
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I'd personally rate our midfield an 8/10 (lack of a genuine extractor is our big weakness), and theirs at 7/10 (Martin, Cotchin, Foley, Deledio, Tuck are a good group)

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:23 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
I'd personally rate our midfield an 8/10 (lack of a genuine extractor is our big weakness), and theirs at 7/10 (Martin, Cotchin, Foley, Deledio, Tuck are a good group)



I'm with you Don - I think the midflieds are closer than we would like - it will come down to a battle of defences - the one that does better will win.

Ohhhh and Kruezer of course - Hopefully no Tiger can go with him around the ground.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:33 am 
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bluebo baggers wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I'd personally rate our midfield an 8/10 (lack of a genuine extractor is our big weakness), and theirs at 7/10 (Martin, Cotchin, Foley, Deledio, Tuck are a good group)



I'm with you Don - I think the midflieds are closer than we would like - it will come down to a battle of defences - the one that does better will win.

Ohhhh and Kruezer of course - Hopefully no Tiger can go with him around the ground.


Their midfield is close to ours on potential not output. Whether it changes this year is another matter.
When did Delidio start playing in the midfield? This is news to me.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 10:42 am 
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Get that Worry Room door open .... I reckon we will lose (maybe badly).

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:41 am 
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Donstuie wrote:
I'd personally rate our midfield an 8/10 (lack of a genuine extractor is our big weakness), and theirs at 7/10 (Martin, Cotchin, Foley, Deledio, Tuck are a good group)

What do you call Judd :?: :?

Clearances were a bigger problem for Richmond last year.

Kreuzer, Judd, Murphy, Robinson, Gibbs, Simpson and Curnow v Maric, Cotchin, Martin, Foley, Deledio and Tuck.

Plus Scotland, Yarran, Lucas and Carrazzo v Newman, Houli, Grigg and Jackson.

We have a deeper and more experienced midfield.

Batchelor, Ellis and Morris are still pretty green.

If we lose, we can use the Judd defence and blame it on Carrazzo having sleepless nights as a father of triplets.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 11:57 am 
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Kouta wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I'd personally rate our midfield an 8/10 (lack of a genuine extractor is our big weakness), and theirs at 7/10 (Martin, Cotchin, Foley, Deledio, Tuck are a good group)

What do you call Judd :?: :?



He plays for Richmond with the box seat.


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Kouta wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
I'd personally rate our midfield an 8/10 (lack of a genuine extractor is our big weakness), and theirs at 7/10 (Martin, Cotchin, Foley, Deledio, Tuck are a good group)

What do you call Judd :?: :?

Great clearance worker, but that's not where we want him, hence our drafting of Hadley/McLean/Curnow.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:11 pm 
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I think we showed last year that our midfield is what kept us in (and brought us back) in most games. The catalyst seemed to rotate between Judd, Murphy, Simmo, Scotland, Gibbs. We were always better with a fit Robinson in the scraps.

Richmond have two potential elites that could catapult their midfield. Is this the year they fire? They should. Against us? I think we have them covered.

Or more to the point, we NEED to have them covered to win.

I believe the outcome will be a lot closer than previous years, but I believe Carlton will win (I was more worried going into Rd 1 last year).


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 1:59 pm 
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We have to start the game with Hampson in the ruck - he needs to get over the top of Maric/Vickery at the centre bounces to get the ball going our way.

Kreuzer just doesnt have the spring to clearly win the centre ruck contests.

Kreuzer to start in the goal square and move to the ruck later in the quarter and stay permanently in the Ruck later in the game as his superior tank takes over.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:13 pm 
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AGRO wrote:
We have to start the game with Hampson in the ruck - he needs to get over the top of Maric/Vickery at the centre bounces to get the ball going our way.

Kreuzer just doesnt have the spring to clearly win the centre ruck contests.

Kreuzer to start in the goal square and move to the ruck later in the quarter and stay permanently in the Ruck later in the game as his superior tank takes over.


The hitout is irrelevant if you don't win the clearance.
This was perfectly demonstrated by Kreuzer last Sunday when he didn't get anywhere near the tap, but roved it instead, pumping it into the goal square for Hammer to convert.
Kreuzer might not win as many taps, but he doesn't lose many clearances.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 23, 2012 2:20 pm 
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Stamos wrote:
AGRO wrote:
We have to start the game with Hampson in the ruck - he needs to get over the top of Maric/Vickery at the centre bounces to get the ball going our way.

Kreuzer just doesnt have the spring to clearly win the centre ruck contests.

Kreuzer to start in the goal square and move to the ruck later in the quarter and stay permanently in the Ruck later in the game as his superior tank takes over.


The hitout is irrelevant if you don't win the clearance.
This was perfectly demonstrated by Kreuzer last Sunday when he didn't get anywhere near the tap, but roved it instead, pumping it into the goal square for Hammer to convert.
Kreuzer might not win as many taps, but he doesn't lose many clearances.


I did see that and I wasnt ignoring it - but you also noticed that in the last quarter of that game Kreuzer came into his own winning just about every hitout & clearance, he wasnt jumping any higher it was just he was clearly fitter and able to dominate the North Melbourne big men.

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