When I am back on them!

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So you are not currently drinking...

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4 months off!

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Wowser!!!

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I see people's argument about pokies but no real solution for the short to medium term.

Simple fact is that the more pokies a football club has the more financial stability and thus the more power it has.

Do we want our club to be socially responsible as well as non competitive?

Its all well and good to say we shouldnt do this etc but when we get to the bottom line football success costs!

I for one am comfortable with the club's decision but would be happy to see them strive to make pokies just one of many successful revenue streams. Not because they hurt the community but because one simple act of legislation can derail them and then where would we be?

I have seen what these things do to a certain section of the community and its not pretty but if it was not pokies it would be horse racing, casino or some other form of gambling of which there are vast amounts out there.

Its sad but the human condition just means that a certain percentage of us will become addicts of one vice or another. This vice will undoubtable destroy their lives and they become the warning sign posts on the road to success for the rest of us.

I too am a sign post, my vice was love (the x wife) ... cost me millions, left me broke ... but that's just life ... you do what you think is going to make you happy with no regrets.

Its like drugs and alcohol ... again there is a percentage of people out there that are just genetically susceptible to becoming addicts.

I remember in my uni days knew this very intelligent bloke ... completely drug free, nice guy. Did a line of speed at a party one day as a dare ... never forget his eyes after he did it ... it was like a doorway had opened up to him.

6 months later he was dead of an overdose ... but not before leaving uni and becoming a rent boy to fuel his incredible habit.

Unless you ban all vices, which lets face it will never happen ... THERE WILL BE CASUALTIES. Everyone and I mean everyone has an addiction ... its just that some addictions are not going to destroy your life ... look at those crazy golfers, playing in torrential rain because they are addicted to it ... if their vice were pokies instead of golf they too would be a sign post.

In the end whether you like it or not Doc ... we all have addictions ... its just that some addictions can lead to oblivion for some if they find it, its sad and I would not wish it on my worst enemy but its life.

Why should the CFC not make money from this when all they did was take the pokies away from other clubs?

They would still have cause the same misery but the profit would have gone to our competitors.

Believe me I understand your argument and I commend you for your stand but I would prefer my club to be profitable and stable at the expense of other clubs ... than take the high road and be an also ran.

Just wondering how stable the pokies would have been, had Wilkie and Xenophon got their way last year?

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Rather have the dosh.

so rather have the dosh or the ability to earn it?
mathieson gave us the dosh
pratt gave us the dosh!

the people in charge were handed dosh without taking the required hard yards to create the dosh.

thats problem number 2

and what if mathieson says his nephew shall be invited on to the board too?

you dont care?

this is increasingly becoming like the movie 'ed wood"

johnny depp is the worlds worst movie maker,ed wood and ed needs money;so anyone that contributes to the movie making gets a say=son in the movie or re write the ending etc.

this is happenning because the star on top of our christams tree have no answers on how to take this club forward!

i thank mathieson for every one of his many contributions to this club.

but he has had to make every one of those contributions because the club is at loss to grow from within.
the more people like bruce and richard contribute the less the club is actually doing from within.!

so yeah take the dosh!

welfare and of course means compromised with how you find yohur funds and where they come from.

lazy thinking!

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sporting clubs world wide struggle to make a profit, yet people here expect it to happen, interesting.

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If some clubs weren't so myopic, ways to make profits would present themselves to the club.

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Well - technically NO because professional sporting clubs worldwide largely have individual or consortium ownership models that don't occur (aside from the A-League) in Australia. I don't think anyone is against the pokies as a form of revenue per se, however I'm convinced the likes of Synbad and I are preaching to the apathetic....which is fine....until the day you start a thread on here saying how wonderful the board, Sticks and Swanny have been in leading this club out of debt...which will be completely untrue. But don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

I understand your point, but the concept is similar, look at my beloved Glasgow Rangers as an example.

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This is pretty much what has been discussed in this thread recently...

Get money

But there is positive energy and negative energy.

We get it cos its given to us by a benefactor and its from gaming.

Thats just so fantastic for the CFC .

It has positive all over it as far as what were capable of orchestrating for ourselves.

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Can you imagine the sponsorship pitch? (that's if they did one)...It's a really amazing sponsorship coup. Here you have President Colin Carter and CEO Brian Cook who have publicly backed Federal Gov't poker machine reform (primarily because the Cats have received $10 million in federal government funding towards the Kardinia Park re-development)...but in the meantime they made $10 million from Pokie machines they own last year - $4.2 million of which came directly from the 100 machines at Skilled Stadium!!

They are very clever pussycats!

Meanwhile - North Melbourne supporters must be sitting back wondering why they didn't think of this! Good luck to the Cats. If you break it down, they're being sponsored by the State Government, but I don't have a problem with that. They've a very smart operator in Brian Cook. Oh how I wished we could have nabbed him.

They are in a unique position, true home games = $$$

But all the pieces have fallen into place at the right time, I don't think you agree, but on field form has a massive impact in off field activity and success.

Win a flag and everything is rosy, win three in 5 years and the world is at your feet.

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in theory that's true.
however, if you are relying on things to happen off field its a reflection on what you are doing on!
so until there is some marked professionalism off the field don't expect what happened at the cats! they have been a good organisation for the last few years all round!
as have the magpies!
no surprises they have both tasted success!

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2 flags in 50 years.... just sayin'

Of course I agree! But those pieces don't fall into place by accident. They fall into place under great management and Brian Cook and Frank Costa understood their predicament, took risks - (many creative as well as calculated), and stuck to the plan even when people in high places told them to reassess their position. They didn't 'wing' it.