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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:06 pm 
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We've really gone backwards since the great dual premiership team of the 2000s.


We need a Callum Chambers type to go that next step. Where's that Fevola bloke too?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:30 pm 
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seasons doomed, no preseason flags :)

Majorly pissed off at bower. Had a multibet on port to beat the blues. The umpires helped loads in the last 5mins of that game. Then l had blues to beat adelaide. If bower hit a target and not kick it to the opposition, then they wouldnt of rebounded for goal and steal the momentum!!

We have to remove the proudly sponsored by Jordan Russell / Paul Bower. Both are bullants players now.

Good to see the new eyes have fixed hampson judgement on the ball.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:58 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
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We have a couple of real ball butcherers in this side and it should be in team rules that they are not to be delivering the ball in the back half as evidence yesterday showed they haven't improved


There is one Butcher I'd like us to get.


Hey,Teknodeejay, quit dissin' the Vagina word. You're giving it a bad name there. :smile:


I'm with bluegirl. I like vaginas.


Yeah I am into vaginas as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:42 pm 
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I thought the 2 positives outside of Bower, McLean and Curnow where Hampson (hold on to your hats people his going to explode) and Watson with Casboult slightly being edged out. I was quite happy for a kid learning the trade.
A few cobwebs but so what it's Feb with 3 or 4 games to go before round 1.
Buckle up people we are on the way!


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:12 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
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Any one else see a new Skinny Lappin in young Buckley?

Lappin didn't have Buckley's speed. I see a Campo who didn't debut until he was 20 years of age. Buckley's yet to turn 19. I would be content with a Whitehead who also had some toe.

ok you dont see lappin in buckley ,but you see campo at twenty or content if buckley is whitehead cos of his toe!

ok

TC's Dwayne Russell has set us straight.

Thanks for your cutting edge contribution and sense of humour.


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:32 pm 
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Oh i remind you of Dwayne Russell .. but on TC.. not Foxtel... let me guess...shin?????

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 11:03 pm 
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Of the newcomers, the only one I was disappointed in was McCarthy. I know it's only early and he really didn't get that much game time, but I did expect him to show a little more.
I was also disappointed that McInnes didn't play as I am inclined to think he has a better chance than Watson and McCarthy of making the grade.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 2:47 am 
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I think Watson just needs time for the rest of his body to catch up with the size of his head. It's a miracle he can get his jumper over it!


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 5:48 am 
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Nah, would have been a problem if he owned Delucas neck.

Watson has no defensive smarts what so ever.
I dont understand what we are doing at the academy sometimes.

The other problem he has is pace and agility.

thats the bit that will be an ongoing problem for him.

As the game whizzes around him at a pace he is uncomfortable with.. he will lose his confidence and off will go his kicking.(the only strength he has)

McInnes needs to beat 20 guys to a half back flankers spot... he will be lucky to play a game....

And Mcartney is a disappointment.. but he has the correct tools to play the game.His problem is mostly between the ears. I think he needs to feel like he belongs.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:04 am 
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blueman2 wrote:
Of the newcomers, the only one I was disappointed in was McCarthy. I know it's only early and he really didn't get that much game time, but I did expect him to show a little more.
I was also disappointed that McInnes didn't play as I am inclined to think he has a better chance than Watson and McCarthy of making the grade.


What were you expecting to see from a developing 2nd year player after an interrupted first season, in his first taste of action, in a first round NAB Cup game that the club was clearly using as a glorified training run?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:18 am 
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Brad, I think the club took the competition as seriously as most.

its just with Judd and robbo out we had few ball winners. remember the patch of games without robbo last year? we struggled.

on big pat he was too skinny last year but he needs to step it up this year.
to me if just looks like he doesn't believe!

the club has a problem with players that are low on confidence and don't think they belong. we have seen it way too often.
the good clubs know how to get everybody up!

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 7:35 am 
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If we were taking it as seriously as most, Murph would have played both games to give us some bite in the middle with Judd and Robbo out and a kid like McCarthy may not have played at all.

My point was more about what someone was expecting to see from McCarthy.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:17 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
blueman2 wrote:
Of the newcomers, the only one I was disappointed in was McCarthy. I know it's only early and he really didn't get that much game time, but I did expect him to show a little more.
I was also disappointed that McInnes didn't play as I am inclined to think he has a better chance than Watson and McCarthy of making the grade.


What were you expecting to see from a developing 2nd year player after an interrupted first season, in his first taste of action, in a first round NAB Cup game that the club was clearly using as a glorified training run?


Bootsma, Dale and Buckley, all 1st players, showed a lot more promise.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:22 am 
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Synbad wrote:
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blue girl you only think he looks like that cms you can't see his toe in that photo.
the toe means contentment for whitehead!


Get thee to The Watch Thread immediately..and stop torturing these poor people!!! :razz:
I want to see your watches. ALL of them. :smile:

Bluegirl, speaking of watches.
On ebay there is this guy from Ukraine , he has the most amazing watches.
Theyre quite historical , he has ww2 u boat issue watches and SS Gestapo watches from the SS
He has German Paratrooper watches.
They look amazing.. often he has a story attached to his selling blog about the watch (For example Doxa brand) and then a story about the regiment they were issued too.
He gets some huge prices as every tom dick and harry believe him and want their very own piece of hisroy.
These watches look amazing.. meticulously dialled with insignia etc.
But if you look very closely you sometimes find accuracy mistakes incorrect dates etc.
But people still buy his watches.
Sometimes they are converted pocket watches into wrist watches.. beautifully re dialled of course.

Really funny.

People believe anything if they wanna believe anything... :lol:


Gosh Synners, I'd just LOVE to wear a friggin' ex Gestapo worn watch every day!!! :mad: :confused: :confused: ? Real or fake...I mean seriously? About as much fun as a blind date with the Fuhrer.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 8:26 am 
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"We weren't switched on at all," Ratten said.

"It was like we were coming out for a training session and we weren't switched on at all.

"Defensively we were really poor and we should maybe have been five or six goals down, which wasn't the way that we wanted to start 2012.

"We want to make sure that our performance is to a level that we expect and there's no doubt in the first game that it wasn't, whether we played the kids or the older players."

Didn't see either game, but if the coach is disappointed, then so am I.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:06 am 
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Synbad wrote:
on big pat he was too skinny last year but he needs to step it up this year.
to me if just looks like he doesn't believe!

the club has a problem with players that are low on confidence and don't think they belong. we have seen it way too often.
the good clubs know how to get everybody up!


There are players that seem to be carrying doubts upon themselves and I may have mentioned it here through training reports.
Those guys are Watson, Davies and to a lesser extent McCarthy.
Watson and Davies were the regular fumblers that were visibly disappointed and distressed in their output, where McCarthy just seemed to smile nervously.

Don't for one minute think that we're the only club that suffers for having a few players down on confidence though.
Every club has players that will ebb and flow in the way they see their own performances.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:26 am 
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TruBlueBrad wrote:
If we were taking it as seriously as most, Murph would have played both games to give us some bite in the middle with Judd and Robbo out and a kid like McCarthy may not have played at all.

My point was more about what someone was expecting to see from McCarthy.


The word I used was 'disappointed', not 'expected'. I shouldn't have to justify a personal feeling I had to someone who feels a need to be combative. If I have no right to feel disappointed, then maybe I should have been delighted, excited, pleased or satisfied, instead, as these are antonyms for disappointed. But, you know, as I don't think too many supporters would have been delighted, excited, pleased or satisfied with McCarthy's showing, I probably wasn't alone in being disappointed. Let's be clear, I am not suggesting that he should have had an impact on the game with the little game time he had, or that will never be a player. I was just disappointed with the little I saw, that's all.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 9:59 am 
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Synbad wrote:
on big pat he was too skinny last year but he needs to step it up this year.
to me if just looks like he doesn't believe!

the club has a problem with players that are low on confidence and don't think they belong. we have seen it way too often.
the good clubs know how to get everybody up!


There are players that seem to be carrying doubts upon themselves and I may have mentioned it here through training reports.
Those guys are Watson, Davies and to a lesser extent McCarthy.
Watson and Davies were the regular fumblers that were visibly disappointed and distressed in their output, where McCarthy just seemed to smile nervously.

Don't for one minute think that we're the only club that suffers for having a few players down on confidence though.
Every club has players that will ebb and flow in the way they see their own performances.

confidence is everything in football!
the more players you have with self doubt the less good youre going to be.

some teams are better at handling the mind dimmension than others.
we are not one of the better clubs at handling mind issues.
we have had a few players on the footy scrap pile over the last couple of years.
thornton,bower,grigg,walker,setanta etc

some have shown something when we have given them belief!

i think collingwood are miles ahead when it comes to players feeling good about themselves.

to just believe it cant be improved and is natural is ludicrous in an era of high intensity and work load on individual players you need everybody up and firing .

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:23 am 
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Synbad wrote:
confidence is everything in football!
the more players you have with self doubt the less good youre going to be.

some teams are better at handling the mind dimmension than others.
we are not one of the better clubs at handling mind issues.
we have had a few players on the footy scrap pile over the last couple of years.
thornton,bower,grigg,walker,setanta etc

some have shown something when we have given them belief!

i think collingwood are miles ahead when it comes to players feeling good about themselves.

to just believe it cant be improved and is natural is ludicrous in an era of high intensity and work load on individual players you need everybody up and firing .


Confidence does mean a lot, no doubt.
Had have you used that argument against Carlton early last year, I would have agreed with you.

Murphy, Thornton and Yarran have openly admitted their improvement for Ratten showing faith in them and Walker may well be in that boat, also.
Some may be better which is very possible, but we're not completely unaware of keeping the group up and as at this point in time, they are.

I understand that Ratten gave the boys a blast yesterday for their showing on the weekend, yet applauded Bower for his efforts.
Maybe he was just doing a "Thornton" with him right now.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:26 am 
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Synbad wrote:
harker wrote:
Synbad wrote:
on big pat he was too skinny last year but he needs to step it up this year.
to me if just looks like he doesn't believe!

the club has a problem with players that are low on confidence and don't think they belong. we have seen it way too often.
the good clubs know how to get everybody up!


There are players that seem to be carrying doubts upon themselves and I may have mentioned it here through training reports.
Those guys are Watson, Davies and to a lesser extent McCarthy.
Watson and Davies were the regular fumblers that were visibly disappointed and distressed in their output, where McCarthy just seemed to smile nervously.

Don't for one minute think that we're the only club that suffers for having a few players down on confidence though.
Every club has players that will ebb and flow in the way they see their own performances.

confidence is everything in football!
the more players you have with self doubt the less good youre going to be.

some teams are better at handling the mind dimmension than others.
we are not one of the better clubs at handling mind issues.
we have had a few players on the footy scrap pile over the last couple of years.
thornton,bower,grigg,walker,setanta etc

some have shown something when we have given them belief!

i think collingwood are miles ahead when it comes to players feeling good about themselves.

to just believe it cant be improved and is natural is ludicrous in an era of high intensity and work load on individual players you need everybody up and firing .


Is it the fact that we are not 'new age' enough?

Because we are full of introverts, being able to 'buck up' may not come as naturally as the bosses expect. I mean to say, most of those players, with the exception of Thornton, seem to have uncommon personality types. You possibly need to get into their head a bit more to be able to get the best out of them.

Like it or not, people tend to be a bit more precious than they used to be and may be a bit of left over 'boys club' mentality is the reason this is not recognised.

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