..that Essendon* draw that ppl reckon we should have won.. ..considering how the bombres were all over us early, and them copping 2 knee injuries that deprived their hbf of run.. ..the draw favoured us.. .... ..we finished pretty much exactly where we deserved at the end of the H&A.. ..thru finals we could have risen if we had of beaten the weagles over in subi, as it was we played well, just not good enough..

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It's 2012 now people...move on!

I dub thee, Mrs Dane.

Arise Mrs Dane, Queen of the Anti-Whingers!

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They're all because of workload, because that's what puts their bodies under strain to the point of ripping their shoulder reaching for a doona, or going for a mark in drills, etc.

It's rarely one single act that leads to an injury problem.

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What a lucky lady!

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dane's trolling again

Confirmed we also have Yarran and Henderson out due to minor injuries.
Indications are that neither will be ready for the NAB on the weekend, although we should get to see Bootsma.

Match Day with Sugar (a nice little video of behind the scenes for the intra club game)

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In glorious HD!

BTW, someone should send through a few medical papers to the club, specifically the ones which say that the most beneficial time for high-intensity exercise is after midday, particularly after 5 PM, as there is a strong evidence that morning exercise is actually harmful to one's blood pressure (and the effect is worse for those between the ages of 13 & 25).

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Are you someone?

don't tell me that Jim - I have been getting up at 5.00 in the mornign going to Gym for the last 6 years 6 days a week

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It's not that dramatic, something like 10% more likely to have increased blood pressure, but elite performance athletes, higher physical stress, yadda yadda, something to pay attention to for them. Best advice for the layman is when you're feeling particularly high strung in the morning is to look to relax into it with maybe a few stretches rather than a workout, even if you crave the endorphin/serotonin/dopamine hit.

And no woof, I'm not someone who knows all the papers to reference. The club should wander past Melbourne Uni and pinch a few doctoral candidates who specialise in medical research. Some of them would love the access and the expertise they'd provide would be fairly unique in AFL circles.

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Nah...Far too simplistic Jimmae. So you argue every injury that occurs is due to workload? Think you need to actually think a bit deeper than that. So has nothing to do with surface, has nothing to do with players falling across other players, has nothing to do with players over reaching for marks. The players at Carlton injured this year are not due to soft tissue injuries normally associated with workload. They all have far different associating factors

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How is the game workload not part of the workload?

Away from how the players are managed physically, the only other causes for injury are either dramatic collisions/falls/stumbles or seemingly beyond anyone's control (pre-existing illnesses, etc).

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Workload injuries are normally associated with soft tissue or stress related hotspots. So....Hammy's, Calfs, quads ect....or bone stress realted or back related...just like Jamisons. How many hammy's quads, callfs do you see in the list Harker and I were discussing? Forget the "Ill cover everything bysaying every injury is stress related" Think more deeply about it

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I am, or do you think hairline fractures in the bone or minor ligament tears are always the result of one incident? The stress reaction is from overcooking his workload when he had minor back pain but identified it as muscular.

Speaking of hairs, I'm splitting them at this point.

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Ok.....The players Harker and I were discussing in my opinion were not overload related injuries...except for Jamison .Lets just leave it at that

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the blood pressure finding doesn't sound particularly clinically significant either....I'll wait for the meta-analysis

Pfff.

Here's some indisputable facts then:

- On average, your body temp peaks at around 4-5 PM, meaning you can have a shorter warm-up
- Blood pressure is on its downward slide for the day unlike in the morning, where it is increasing
- Strength & endurance are higher in the afternoon
- Exercise a few hours before bed improves sleeping patterns (as does morning exercise, but meh)

To me it makes sense: why exercise when your circulation is at its poorest, warm ups are a bitch and your faculties aren't in gear, versus waiting a bit. Maybe it requires better time management and discipline, but there's benefits to be had in better exercise technique alone, which probably contributes to less physical stress and thus less BP issues.

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..Jimmae's right, i think it ties in to the human body clock schtick.. ..supposedly more likely fer heart attacks before noon as well..

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