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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:42 am 
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:48 am 
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When Walker, Tuohy, Yarran and Henderson didn't front up on top of the boys we knew to be out already, you had a pretty good idea of what sort of day this was going to be.

Very little to take out of this practice match that hasn't already been covered many times over.

Highlight of the day: No injuries although Garlett did walk off early.

Just glad to see Lucas and Curnow telling us that they're best 22 along with McLean doing what he does so well.

The Hampson/Kreuzer duel didn't follow on after the first quarter which was a real shame.
Hampson jumped all over Kreuzer but Kreuzer again showed how good he'll be on the ground.

Some of the training sessions were considerably more intense than this match today and I'd love to be able to gloss it up, but this was really a pretty soft affair.
There's nothing wrong with that though consdering how tough the pre-season has been in general and for how many fill-ins we had there today.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:59 am 
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When Walker, Tuohy, Yarran and Henderson didn't front up on top of the boys we knew to be out already, you had a pretty good idea of what sort of day this was going to be.

Very little to take out of this practice match that hasn't already been covered many times over.

Highlight of the day: No injuries although Garlett did walk off early.

Just glad to see Lucas and Curnow telling us that they're best 22 along with McLean doing what he does so well.

The Hampson/Kreuzer duel didn't follow on after the first quarter which was a real shame.
Hampson jumped all over Kreuzer but Kreuzer again showed how good he'll be on the ground.

Some of the training sessions were considerably more intense than this match today and I'd love to be able to gloss it up, but this was really a pretty soft affair.
There's nothing wrong with that though consdering how tough the pre-season has been in general and for how many fill-ins we had there today.



That's your worst effort so far Harks, sorry, not good enough. No excitement and no insight. :grin:

In future , if it's dull, just make sh1t up. We won't know the difference. :lol:

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:06 am 
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Yeah, totally. I think that's fair enough to establish some cohesion in the players who are likely to be playing together.

Also provides an opportunity for the likes of McLean to show what they're capable of against the best players we have.

Obviously they mixed it up in the 2nd half to see who really are the influential players and the impact they have on games.

Great to hear Kreuzer and Lucas played well. Both will add improvement to the side this year.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:16 am 
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That's your worst effort so far Harks, sorry, not good enough. No excitement and no insight. :grin:

In future , if it's dull, just make sh1t up. We won't know the difference. :lol:


I can't do that cimm. :)

Look, it wasn't bad but just not as good as what has been on show through the training sessions.
The first quarter had a little "tough" in it, but the day really wasn't much more than a training drill.

There would have been around 20 fill-ins so that alone will tell you that the general tone may be somewhat diminished.
Just have to wonder why Walker, Tuohy, Yarran, Henderson, Lodge, and Heyne didn't front up.
It was probably the concern for those boys being injured that dented my enthusiasm for this match.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:18 am 
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harker wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
That's your worst effort so far Harks, sorry, not good enough. No excitement and no insight. :grin:

In future , if it's dull, just make sh1t up. We won't know the difference. :lol:


I can't do that cimm. :)

Look, it wasn't bad but just not as good as what has been on show through the training sessions.
The first quarter had a little "tough" in it, but the day really wasn't much more than a training drill.

There would have been around 20 fill-ins so that alone will tell you that the general tone may be somewhat diminished.
Just have to wonder why Walker, Tuohy, Yarran, Henderson, Lodge, and Heyne didn't front up.
It was probably the concern for those boys being injured that dented my enthusiasm for this match.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:30 am 
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baz_baz wrote:

How did my boy Frazer go?


Collected a bit of the ball down back when switching play.
With 4 * 20 minute quarters and a ton of rotations, many players didn't really get a chance to get a run on.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:32 am 
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GIBBS' left footed volley goal was worth the price of admission.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:32 am 
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harker wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
That's your worst effort so far Harks, sorry, not good enough. No excitement and no insight. :grin:

In future , if it's dull, just make sh1t up. We won't know the difference. :lol:


I can't do that cimm. :)

Look, it wasn't bad but just not as good as what has been on show through the training sessions.
The first quarter had a little "tough" in it, but the day really wasn't much more than a training drill.

There would have been around 20 fill-ins so that alone will tell you that the general tone may be somewhat diminished.
Just have to wonder why Walker, Tuohy, Yarran, Henderson, Lodge, and Heyne didn't front up.
It was probably the concern for those boys being injured that dented my enthusiasm for this match.


Well last year when it was wet and raining they called it off

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:34 am 
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that was a couple of years back SB.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:45 am 
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that was a couple of years back SB.



geez time flies when your having fun - either that I'm getting old

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:01 pm 
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That's a fairly inaccurate team sheet in terms of names (and there was plenty of jumper swapping as per usual).

verbs wrote:
Light Blue should get flogged.

They did in the first half, then the musical chairs began.

isdonis.george wrote:
Possibles vs Probables?

They usually stack one team as much as possible, then scatter a few probables into the possibles team to give them a go in a role they may not get otherwise, or to offer a good match-up, and vice versa for a few possibles. Same thing happened today. It all gets thrown around after a half anyway.

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When Walker, Tuohy, Yarran and Henderson didn't front up on top of the boys we knew to be out already, you had a pretty good idea of what sort of day this was going to be.

Very little to take out of this practice match that hasn't already been covered many times over.

Highlight of the day: No injuries although Garlett did walk off early.

Just glad to see Lucas and Curnow telling us that they're best 22 along with McLean doing what he does so well.

The Hampson/Kreuzer duel didn't follow on after the first quarter which was a real shame.
Hampson jumped all over Kreuzer but Kreuzer again showed how good he'll be on the ground.

Some of the training sessions were considerably more intense than this match today and I'd love to be able to gloss it up, but this was really a pretty soft affair.
There's nothing wrong with that though consdering how tough the pre-season has been in general and for how many fill-ins we had there today.

I'd agree with this. The only thing more disappointing about today was the 20 minute wait for coffee, which combined with my late arrival had me watching about 20 minutes of football out of the 60 on offer (4x15 quarters, no time on). Disposal was of a high enough level to impress when the fatigue and conditions were factored in (a very light drizzle in the first half after a dampish morning would have made the ball slippery without the turf being so).

As I didn't get to see much I'll cover what I saw that stood out from the status quo:

- Robinson & Gibbs looked to be lumbering in the last, not sure how much game time they had prior.

- Carrazzo looks about 3-5 kgs lighter, and it showed in his lateral movement, but I wonder which role spurred on the change: the one for the CFC, or SWMBO? :P

- Brock looked in much better knick than I've seen him for a while; hamstrings & quads looked stronger and leaner, while the calves had a little more size about them too. He always holds back on pushing hard off either leg, which really makes me worry about how much pain and/or restriction his ankles, hamstrings & hips are under. He's doing all the right things and definitely looked the quickest he has in his whole time at the club, but I'm about 50/50 that extra conditioning work is going to help him regain stability & confidence in his legs enough to impact the senior team.

- Lucas & Joseph both looked in good shape, with both putting in some decent skills and occasionally spraying the odd disposal (particularly Lucas by hand). Joseph was in a defensive role in what I saw of the game, and looked well composed, while Lucas was bolting up, down and across the flanks to offer an option.

- Levi looked pretty average once he had the ball in hand in what little I saw of him, though there seems to be some complimentary comments on Twitter

- Kreuzer & Hampson were both very impressive, but the only competition they had was each other, and that dried up after the half as they became team mates.

- I only got to see Hammer attack a marking contest once, and he nearly plucked it after literally crashing his way through an opponent in mid air (you could hear the collision from the stands). Would have been an impressive mark, but it's the only time I saw him in the mix for a grab (not his fault). Read the flight well enough, just lost his run at the ball at the last second.

- Laidler was intercepting any F50 entries that came his way, including a great slips catch

- Bower was matched up on Thornton (switched to the sky blue team), which I thought was disappointing given Levi, Kreuzer & Hampson were about (albeit Levi was on the same team), but I again say that without having seen the first half. Acquitted himself well enough, though Thornton lost him a little when he pushed up the wing to receive.

- Could have sworn Yarran was out there, although his doppelganger lacked pace.

- Dale worked himself into the game well from what I saw, but needs a lot of work physically to perform at AFL level

- Armfield was everywhere, but put in a couple of scrubby kicks under next to no pressure

Final details on jumper swaps: Collins, Kreuzer, Murphy, Thornton, Simpson & Robinson all switched from navy to sky blue at the half.

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I need to know the nitty gritty stuff

Were they wearing the right numbers on their back
How did we kick so many goals with all the HBF we have
Was there any innovation going on that will bam bozzle the opposition
Were the pies hotand the beer cold
Did they stop to sign autographs
and was there any butt kicking going on

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There were free snags? @#$%&!. :(

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harker wrote:
cimm1979 wrote:
That's your worst effort so far Harks, sorry, not good enough. No excitement and no insight. :grin:

In future , if it's dull, just make sh1t up. We won't know the difference. :lol:


I can't do that cimm. :)

Look, it wasn't bad but just not as good as what has been on show through the training sessions.
The first quarter had a little "tough" in it, but the day really wasn't much more than a training drill.

There would have been around 20 fill-ins so that alone will tell you that the general tone may be somewhat diminished.
Just have to wonder why Walker, Tuohy, Yarran, Henderson, Lodge, and Heyne didn't front up.
It was probably the concern for those boys being injured that dented my enthusiasm for this match.


Well last year when it was wet and raining they called it off

Big steps forward
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So would it be fair to say we've learned nothing from today?

Not that it's necessarily a bad thing if the case.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:18 pm 
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There were free snags? !@#$%&. :(


Where were you, Jim?

Don't know who you thought Yarran was. Bower looked fit and in touch (yes, he did get caught HTB). Sugar got a stack of both the ball and encouragement (did have a few clangers). Peterson did some nice things as a ring in, and Kreuzer smashed someone in a tackle in the last.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:21 pm 
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So would it be fair to say we've learned nothing from today?
Not that it's necessarily a bad thing if the case.


Pretty much the case.
It was the lack of interesting match-ups that made it somewhat less appealing.
When a 190+cm. senior player is matched up on a 175cm fill-in, you wonder what the point is.

Anyway, we had half of our regular 22 players out, along with virtually all of last years pick-ups.
We all know what Carrazzo, Murphy, Gibbs, Thornton etc. bring to the table, so hard to glean too much out of the whole affair.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:42 pm 
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harker wrote:
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So would it be fair to say we've learned nothing from today?
Not that it's necessarily a bad thing if the case.


Pretty much the case.
It was the lack of interesting match-ups that made it somewhat less appealing.
When a 190+cm. senior player is matched up on a 175cm fill-in, you wonder what the point is.

Anyway, we had half of our regular 22 players out, along with virtually all of last years pick-ups.
We all know what Carrazzo, Murphy, Gibbs, Thornton etc. bring to the table, so hard to glean too much out of the whole affair.



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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 12:52 pm 
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Thanks Jimmae, you've covered much of what I saw and experienced, including the interminable wait for the coffee...... :mad:

Pros:
* Kruezer and Hammer looking good, as did Sugar;
* Scooter looked to carry on his form from Yarrawonga.....oh, I mean, last year;
* Lovely cycle from Box Hill to Prinny Park and return ride to Greensborough;
* Renewed my membership today.
# Free snags!!!!!! :thumbsup:

Cons:
* What is a former Bomber still doing at the cafe?!;
* By the time I collected my coffee, I skulled it as I turned my back from the counter- it was cold!!!;
* Not much to glean for a reliable portent of the coming season.

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