Everyone is a midfielder and yet we rely on Carrazzo and Ellard as regulars.
Just goes to show that we dont draft midfielders.

What tells you Yarran (and if you look back i am a huge rap and was before that draft ) is a midfielder?
Is it his amazing ball finding ability?
I know he can do it potentially... but he isnt a huge ball winner or clearance winner... is he???

You mean he is a winger midfielder as more likely??

Ball winners / clearance players win the ball and bring the Yarrans into the play.

Are you following this???

Yaarran at this stage is a good half back flanker and probably hff but he isnt a ball winner... and might never be that.

What he was , was a hffer cum hbf.
Yes a stint through the midfield is beckoning.. but just a stint.

Midfielder clearance winner and ball winner..(Hodge Sewell Lewis Mitchell Rioli ) outside midfielder Burgoyne/ Issac Smith /Savage /Bateman/Shiels etc

understand ???

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Then call them. I'm interested.

2008: We got Yarran and Robinson. We really should have drafted .............. & ............. instead.
2009: We picked up Lucas, but ............... was obviously the better choice
2010: We topped up on talls. No one had an issue when we collected them, then. Some Duigan guy went alright for #70 and another rookie midfielder in Curnow looked pretty good in his first 6 games.
2011: We took Bootsma but we really should have got ..............

Just as a matter of interest.

Pay me 150k per annum and ill find you one.
Surround me with an army of recruiters and ill find you two.
Just as i know there will be midfielders taken after our Bootsma that will be very good.
Its just how it is.
You can take that to the bank!

Oh youre going to say something clever like im "betting on the field of the Melbourne cup"?
Well we didnt even enter a horse... our horse is running in the Golden slipper...

To me thats plain weak!!!

If Judd or Murphy go down and more attention goes on the other.. you can bet we will fall away.
We think we have a ripper midfield... yes we have Carrazzo and Ellard.

Robbo is a Gods send!!!...

But we need more ...

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What's Tom Bell?

You can't name them, but you'd find them? A little confused.
In other words you'd do a better job than Hughes and Rogers. Big call there Synbad and not really a fair one.

This coming from the master spinner

You still haven't answered my questions from a week back where you said we were treading water and I asked you to tell me what was the same at the Club at the end of 2008 that is still the same at the end of 2011.

Out of all the picks Wells has had since 2006 he has picked 2 players that played as genuine onballers in the U18 comp. That's five years worth of picks for 2 onballers. He hardly went hard at building a team around an onballer brigade now did he. Maybe he was resting on his laurels. Perhaps he was lucky that a TAC FF in Ling turned out to be a champion onballer. Or perhaps he was lucky that a winger, HFF like Kelly came good in the role. But don't let me spin it, you're telling the story afterall........or at least a version of it.

For what it is worth I have no doubt that HBF's Menzel, Smedts and Guthrie will all move into the midfield in years to come and be very good at it.

I would also hazard a guess and suggest Geelong's backline has had a major say in their 3 premierships. Isn't a backline made up of two HBF's and 2 BP players. Class is class no matter where they play on the ground.

Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

You keep banging on about Ratts 1 final in 4 years, they won 2 in Thompson's first 7 years.

You keep reminding us that our only win was against a team that just made the 8, etc yet their 2 wins were also against the 7th and 8th sides.

So under the Geelong model that we need to be following, Ratts could still win just 1 more final in 2012/2013/2014, before needing to then win 3 flags from 2015-2019!

You post as if everyone else was an overnight sensation.

You lamnet the fact that we haven't taken over the pack, but it's difficult when you are starting from so far back.

You fail to recognise the place was a basket case 4 years ago, and progress that has been made since, which is ironic as it was during the basket case years around 2004/2005 you labelled anyone that wasn't on board and following the direction the club was taking a heretic. It's like you're a scorned lover, who was betrayed by an ex, and is finding it hard to commit again.

You have continually dodged any questions put to you (although a mod will probably pull me up and say that "he has so move on") and deny any facts thrown your way.

It's not the fact that you are so negative, that upsets people it's that you dont give any clear detail as to what the problems are and how we need to fix them.

You can use the "that's not what I get paid for" line to dodge the second part of the question, but lets outline some details on the first part.

So far all I have is we should have drafted Joe Kickless - midfielder from Utopia at Pick 22 instead of Bootsma. I'm not sure whether that is going to make or break our next season.

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Badmans Moto



Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Never answer a direct question when you can pose another one.



Regards Cazzesman

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Ricky Gervais - “Everyone has the right to hold whatever beliefs they want. And everyone else has the right to find those beliefs f***ing ridiculous.”

Can we just pretend to agree and avoid every thread for the next 8 months heading down a similar path?

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Synbad - didn't you spend 5000 posts back in the dark years converting people to the theory of tanking because you only win premierships with the cream pulled from the very top of the draft. And yet now you're saying the players that win games are slow plodders extracted from the VFL and rookie lists (Sewell and Mitchell). I'm confused - should we have not tanked and just got more extractors with big bodies from the country leagues? Or persevered with blokes like Brett Johnson? Could certainly find it and had a nice big body.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

He's given you the benefit of hindsight and you still won't put yourself on the line and tell us who your preferred options are.

ridiculous comment.
we pay ten recruiter types to do that.
its a huge country!

not picking strong inside types but instead choosing outside flanker types is weak!

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see? you are dreaming just like the club is.
a tank or a series of tanks like we did will give you a leg up.
we have a leg up as we took three number ones in four years. but we still need to recruit a balanced list.

imagine we didn't have those picks and Judd for the series of seasons we tanked?
we would still be on struggle street!

imagine if Pratt and matheson didn't give us money!

this club can't be competitive without hand out picks and benefactors donations.

sponsorship is mid table
turn over is mid table
membershp is mid table
recruiting is mid table.

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It's sad how much you have declined as a poster. Kind of like Lance Whitnall as a player. Just didn't know when the game had gone past you.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

you meaw the guys they took from your list won them the flag and not the awesome midfield.

class is class.

but class in where the ball is and is won and set up is what wins flags.

defence?

yes wait for the opposition to take the ball to your defence and then hold them off.

remember. we do not need more defenders cos they can't all play Mr c.

as ridiculous as that is to your logic that's how it is.

tell me how many half back flanker types play key roles compared to midfield players.

stop loading up on weak picks and earn some balls!

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I do believe Synbad is Kerry Packer reincarnated and is having the time of his life annoying and aggravating everyone to hell and back on TC just for the fun of it.

And like the late Kerry he does it so well.

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Judd will go the way of Voss and Buckley and become even more of an inside player. Already he is best in the league at it but as his pace drops and if he cant get his kicking/disposal back to top notch he will rely on his inside play to keep him in the game. Gun outside players HBFers, wingers, HFF will feed off him. It will be awesome to watch.

The list is going well Synbad. Relax a little and watch it unfold. Its gotta be more fun that trying to poke holes in everything.

you are and always were the rod galt of discussion and posters.

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While I agree with the bad man regarding our team of HB flankers .... I don't agree regarding Ratten. Ratten has done an enormous job. He has taken a crap team to a position of great strength ... on the verge of a GF appearance. Last year ... with a little luck we might have even got there. Ratten has won the players over ... and brought harder and more disciplined edge to the team. Real and sustained improvement is gradual and comes from hard work ... Ratten understands this and has ensured that we improve each year.

On another issue ... I had to laugh this morning when I heard Greg Denim on SEN. He is a Westcoast supporter and proclaimed that with the loss of LeCras Carlton would move ahead of Westcoast ... someone needs to remind him about the dream Fixture WC had because of where they had finished the previous year. Not to mention the critical injuries Carlton when they played WC in that final.

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I am as mad as hell and I'm not going to take it any more!!!

Can you have a crack at me as well please?