Thanks for that Kouta. Interesting.

And yes ... I see your point about Geelong ... however ... I would like to think that Carlton was still one of the biggest supported Clubs ... I guess when I see membership of a team like Hawthorn it makes me wonder whether support for Carlton is weakening.

We should be able to increase our membership just as Hawthorn did.

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Unfortunately it appears some people from the club use the same logic.
Yes Collingwood jumped 12,000 in 2009 but at the half way mark of the season, they were 6 and 5 and in fact, they sat behind Carlton on the ladder.
Memberships close June 30, not late in the season when the made their run. From memory, St Kilda and Geelong were both miles ahead of any other team and both were undefeated by this stage as well.

To suggest Collingwoods membership surge is purely due to success sells them well short. They're successful due to the fact they embrace their supporters.
They have a mentality of togetherness and unity. In fact, their membership slogans intentionally reflect that philosophy.
It's time we smelt the roses and aimed high ourselves instead of making poor excuses and underselling the superiority of our opposition.
There's plenty to learn from many of our opponents. Being too proud or too arrogant to understand that will see us stay well off the pace.

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BV everybody knows that Collingwoods increase in membership is due to the fact that they could direct debit thier membership from thier Centrelink payments. Its also why they increased the Centrelink loan from $500 to $1000 so they could buy thier kids a new Collingwood jumper and/or trackie each.

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A pessimist sees the difficulty in every opportunity; an optimist sees the opportunity in every difficulty" -Winston Churchill

L.M 35-06

The jump of 12,000 occured during the 2010 Premiershp year, not 2009. At the cut off date they were 9 wins, 3 losses and a draw and were coming off a Prelim appearance from the year before.

I wasn't suggesting that their membership surge is based purely on success any more than the naysayers are claiming that is due to their forward thinking, and supporter empowerment.

Can you give me some more specific examples of embracement as a membership slogan hardly is conclusive proof that they embrace their supporters through togetherness and unity. "I Am Carlton", "We are Port Adelaide", "It's us against them" "They're know we are coming", "Side by Side" "Stand as One". It's just words.

As Doc said, wrong thread now, but to begin with I was originally just addressing a previous post.

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Now give us a dollar turnover table...

Where does this club sit??

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Have a look on the previous page.

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dane's trolling again

Thumbs up to average ???

Sums you up

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I can see the point of blocking a path for Murphy, but I wouldn't bother with Judd.

So where are the Mods now Brad?

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someone hurt????

The point is made.
were travelling mid table on most things but we believe were going to win a flag.
Im a huge believer in if you dont do more things better than everybody else.. (and clearly we arent) were not going to automatically win a flag.(And i get attacked for thinking this...)

Your input is to run off to the moderators cos you think im being hurtful???

lol

Fine.

run along "you big dobber!!!"

Reminds me of primary school......how 'embrassment' for you... baz baz

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If you want him to be around longer than 2 years there's no other option. We were outclassed and/or bullied by the 3 top teams last year. 'Bout time we did some of the bullying/outsmarting. The club have appointed a coach to address just that. If we don't improve significantly at the stoppages, we won't be winning flags in a hurry.

There is ne need to demean people. If you can't argue the point well enough to not demean the person putting the other side of the arguement then rethink your side of the arguement. Thats what Mods are for

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Would that be the primary school that taught you to use embrassment rather than embarrassing?

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I think you're reading too much into it. My point is we were a better team last year than most (some?) of the competition thought we would be. That's not going to happen in 2012. Everyone (including us) sees us as a top 4 team and will set themselves accordingly in 2012.

Dealing with that is part of becoming a legit flag contender. Are we up to it? Dunno. Ask me again in about 5 months.

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

I have no idea who will make the top 4. You've basically named the same top 5 as last year, but who would have guessed WCE would have made it 12 months ago? There's always a surprise or two.

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

Fanks for coorection of my Inglish... its ok im not filling dimeaning...

Its very early to pick top 4.
Any one of about 7 teams can be there.
Im not saying which 7.....

Its too simplistic to just pick last years top 5 and place them in there again.

Teams can plummet like rocks and others can come from the clouds as aboynamedsue said.

To me noone is guaranteed.
There are a hell of alot of clubs who have now done their apprentiship and should be cherry ripe for a charge for the 4.
And i think Freo will be a surprise.

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Yeh I agree. Your outstanding knowledge of all things football will tell you when Ross Lyon first went to StKilda they really struggled to adapt to his game plan and went backwards. Or are you remembering the impact Ross had later on.
Either way you won't be wrong

N?o they missed alot of footballers last year.
Lyon will stiffen them up compared to Harvey the flake.
They have some great talent.
People forget how many games they missed from some pretty good footballers.
Mundy , Sandilands, Barlow the list goes on .
and some of their kids are into their third and fourth years.
And Lyon has coached a team of bananas into 2 gf.
they couyld have won both of those.

Thats some coahing for you!
We have a guy who has won one final (against Essendon* mind you in charge of our team.)

In 3 years his aim was one home final.

We achieved that.. thanks Rats.

Personally im not a huge fan of Lyon... though i do believe hes better suited to Freo than staying at StKilda...
But then when were talking coaching records... you cant scoff at his and think Ratts is right up there...

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