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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:10 am 
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Mitchell is a gun and hard at it.
Judd is a gun and hard at it.
What Mitchell has and Judd doesn't, is a desire to hurt people.


This is why I'm particularly interested as to how Curnow progresses this season.
He is certainly being prepared for the centre spot, so only time will tell how that pans out.

Along with Tuohy and Lucas, I currently have Curnow as the next player likely to have a break out season.
If we strike on the trifecta here, we'll be in good shape.


Agree Harker

For the few early games Curnow played before injury he slotted in perfectly.
Lucas has great balance, skill and awareness.
Tuohy has got that balls and all approach like robbo which we need.
Just quietly I don't think he would mind giving a bit if pain also.



I have high hopes for Kerr as well - I am hoping he makes most of his opportunity in the NAB Cup. He has been training well and the Qatar experience may finally have turned that light on inside his head.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:13 am 
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Just give us the Cups..........!


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:32 am 
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harker wrote:
We're very close with our balance of mids, but Synbad is correct in saying that to have that one "Mitchell" type just finishes things off.
Unfortunately though that is easier said than done, but Curnow is doing everything possible to be that player for us.
If attitude, commitment and discipline have any say in the matter then Curnow may be more than half way there. Very much a pro, is Curnow.

If I see Kerr playing half forward or forward pocket go the reserves ill definitely be on here spewing more than I currently am. if ever one of our long shots can play middle its this guy if he wants it.
I agree with you agro.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 11:43 am 
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I am sure the coaches would know if he has what it takes to play midfield. There are so many aspects to playing midfield that can be tested. They will be all over it.
If they deem he cant play there and then play him as a high half forward or a pocket then that is good enough for me.

Would be great if he could work his way in there.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 1:25 pm 
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I am sure the coaches would know if he has what it takes to play midfield. There are so many aspects to playing midfield that can be tested. They will be all over it.
If they deem he cant play there and then play him as a high half forward or a pocket then that is good enough for me.

Would be great if he could work his way in there.

but bootsma is midfield material?

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 09, 2012 8:26 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
but bootsma is midfield material?


In about 4 years...if the kid plays this year he'll snap in half.

"Oh and this is a real blow. Bootsma has snapped in half again. Oh, and look out the arms have come off too, and his head as well, has it? Yes! Well Josh Bootsma really gone to pieces now".


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:06 am 
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like I said Kerr needs to play exclusively midfield this year.
we know he can play small forward. don't play him there!

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 10:28 am 
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Synbad wrote:
like I said Kerr needs to play exclusively midfield this year.
we know he can play small forward. don't play him there!


I thought all we had were hb's, where did you find a midfielder on our list all of a sudden.
:grin: :grin: :grin:


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:13 am 
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Synbad wrote:
club29 wrote:
I am sure the coaches would know if he has what it takes to play midfield. There are so many aspects to playing midfield that can be tested. They will be all over it.
If they deem he cant play there and then play him as a high half forward or a pocket then that is good enough for me.

Would be great if he could work his way in there.

but bootsma is midfield material?


Different discussion. Cant play Kerr midfield just because they said a completely different bloke with a completely different MO can.

Kerr hasn't proven he can play forward yet.

I hope he makes it as a midfield / forward like Didak.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 11:42 am 
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club29 wrote:
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club29 wrote:
I am sure the coaches would know if he has what it takes to play midfield. There are so many aspects to playing midfield that can be tested. They will be all over it.
If they deem he cant play there and then play him as a high half forward or a pocket then that is good enough for me.

Would be great if he could work his way in there.

but bootsma is midfield material?


Different discussion. Cant play Kerr midfield just because they said a completely different bloke with a completely different MO can.

Kerr hasn't proven he can play forward yet.

I hope he makes it as a midfield / forward like Didak.

the logic is bootsma is heralded as a midfield player having shown nothing.
Kerr is a small forward with what I feel are some weapons for the midfield.
we need more small forwards like we need a hole in the head.
but midfield players are a premium.

as for the guy before you replying on this thread what he just said and the logic he gave for saying it says it all about him really.
laughable post.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:18 pm 
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Reckon this is an intriguing discussion....the midfield that is....and I tend to agree with Synbad....the middle of the ground is where we either go to the next level and win a flag or it can just as easily stagnate and we'll be left behind. Most mids can play forward or back as Murph Judd and Gibbs have shown....Scotland and Gibbs again and even 1AW when going back are other examples....the challenge is to develop a deeper genuine midfield group....personally I believe we have the options on the list and it is now up to the coaching staff to do the rest....

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 3:36 pm 
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when we get overrun its the midfield.
not sure if people have noticed.
sometimes its for twenty minutes. sometimes its less or more.
when we get swamped its midfietd that can't go with it.

midfield is where its won and lost.

not half back flank.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:18 pm 
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Synbad wrote:


as for the guy before you replying on this thread what he just said and the logic he gave for saying it says it all about him really.
laughable post.


I'm glad you've got a sense of humor.

You need it with all the logical statements you've been posting.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:48 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
like I said Kerr needs to play exclusively midfield this year.
we know he can play small forward. don't play him there!


I like Kerr but his fortunes could swing whichever way, but Bootsma just looks like a stayer.
Along with several other untrieds, I'm l really ooking forward to see how Rohans year progresses this year.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:47 pm 
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redback wrote:
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as for the guy before you replying on this thread what he just said and the logic he gave for saying it says it all about him really.
laughable post.


I'm glad you've got a sense of humor.

You need it with all the logical statements you've been posting.

just not a steak and eggs thinker.
big difference between us.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 6:28 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
redback wrote:
Synbad wrote:


as for the guy before you replying on this thread what he just said and the logic he gave for saying it says it all about him really.
laughable post.


I'm glad you've got a sense of humor.

You need it with all the logical statements you've been posting.

just not a steak and eggs thinker.
big difference between us.


Difference is I listen.
Don't have the insecurity to think I'm always right.
Arrogance and ignorance are not your best traits I hope.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:39 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
redback wrote:
Synbad wrote:


as for the guy before you replying on this thread what he just said and the logic he gave for saying it says it all about him really.
laughable post.


I'm glad you've got a sense of humor.

You need it with all the logical statements you've been posting.

just not a steak and eggs thinker.
big difference between us.


Not the 'steak and eggs' call !!! i was hoping you weren't going to use that when you returned ! :lol:

I always blame training loads when we get overun. It starts with our running players. Midfielders and halfback flankers who are virtually midfielders in the modern game anyway. Half fowards too.

Watch the training and watch the way player fitness peaks alter during a season.

We have have a top notch team of pure onballers and we have a few improving at the second tier. I would have liked an onballer in the last draft but accept that none were available and i accept that our recruiters see bootsma as too good to pass up and accept that they think he may play onball in the future.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 8:24 pm 
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redback wrote:
Difference is I listen.
Don't have the insecurity to think I'm always right.
Arrogance and ignorance are not your best traits I hope.


Difference appears to be Synbad isn't following you around the forums, hanging on every word you type.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 10, 2012 9:44 pm 
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Anyway...back to the thread...
Too many pages ago a number were rightly bullish regarding the improvement in our list, luck with injuries, coaching and individual player development and I think Harker gave a nice summary of tier 1 & 2 players potential. We are definitely a chance this year, BUT...
the majority of clubs will also improve. So let's not assume that our improvement is an isolated variable in regards to who gets to the big dances at the end of the season.
I don't pay attention to other clubs but for those who do, who amongst the top 12 from 2011 will be genuine top 8 and then genuine top 4 prospects? Who of last year's top 5 may slip?
FWIW I'm thinking Carlton v Hawthorn Grand Final.


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BigGartos wrote:
Anyway...back to the thread...
Too many pages ago a number were rightly bullish regarding the improvement in our list, luck with injuries, coaching and individual player development and I think Harker gave a nice summary of tier 1 & 2 players potential. We are definitely a chance this year, BUT...
the majority of clubs will also improve. So let's not assume that our improvement is an isolated variable in regards to who gets to the big dances at the end of the season.
I don't pay attention to other clubs but for those who do, who amongst the top 12 from 2011 will be genuine top 8 and then genuine top 4 prospects? Who of last year's top 5 may slip?
FWIW I'm thinking Carlton v Hawthorn Grand Final.


A majority of clubs think they will improve.

Richmond and North are expecting improvement, yet unless players have miraculously learnt how to kick over summer, that next step becomes difficult.

For me I think North can make that leap.


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