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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:03 am 
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Looks like Jack Reiwoldt will get ANOTHER free pass in round 1 without Jamo.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:18 am 
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dane wrote:
I still don't understand why people get so up in arms about reporting of injuries.


It's the information age, and given our propensity for as much news as possible, we usually find out of this stuff eventually anyway.

For a journo (or a blogger, a fantasy sports nut like myself, a gambler or a forum visitor) it's a no-brainer; we all want the best information at all times, because it makes for accurate analysis and reporting. If we're berating a player for not performing and his 'stress fracture injury' is something systemic and not temporary, it informs the criticism, if not excuses the performance. As the year wears on - this becomes more apparent.

As supporters and paying customers, it's a tougher call. Injury disclosure can affect everything from gambling to membership sales (if a player of Judd's ilk). It all comes back to business.

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It's that knee jerk reaction to things they can't control. That feeling of hopelessness brings on the desire to react in an aggressive manner and blame others. 2 weeks, 4, weeks, 3 months. It is what it is and the player will be back in the future.


I'm not totally convinced it's a feeling of hopelessness to react aggressively or impart blame. As a shareholder, I'm informed about - for arguments sake - a delay in delivery of a Chinese-built drilling rig that was meant to up and running in the Pilbara. When the news filters through, it's a case of 'Thank you for telling me the truth (as per ASIC obligation), price may fluctuate until production commences, now let's move on'. I wanted the same thing from my football club.

Realizing now that is but a pipe dream - we're a little forced to read between the lines. The club made an error with the Jamison one last year. Meniscus surgery was always going to take more than the time they allotted for recovery. At any rate - a delay in his production this year might well mean a re-rating of Carlton's chances. HOLD. :wink:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:47 am 
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The HUN is reporting Swan as saying he would miss up to three months....

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stress-reaction-to-back-makes-michael-jamison-late-cup-starter/story-e6frf9jf-1226265618499

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 11:50 am 
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BluesRockMyWorld wrote:

It's an extra frustration when you don't know who to believe, especially when one source is The HUN :?


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:00 pm 
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Let's see, the Big Paper says 5 weeks and the Hun says 3 months - hmmm

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:01 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
BluesRockMyWorld wrote:

It's an extra frustration when you don't know who to believe, especially when one source is The HUN :?


Did either of you read the article?

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:04 pm 
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dane wrote:
Rexy wrote:
BluesRockMyWorld wrote:

It's an extra frustration when you don't know who to believe, especially when one source is The HUN :?


Did either of you read the article?
of course not ! :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:06 pm 
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It doesn't say anything contrary to what the club said...

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:08 pm 
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dane wrote:
It doesn't say anything contrary to what the club said...
my mind is now at ease :cool:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:10 pm 
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They got it early according to Andy McKay on Sen!
Will lighten his load for 4-5 weeks and he WILL play 1 or 2 nab cup games before rd1.
No fractures but had it not been detected early would've led to fracturing

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 12:11 pm 
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Sydney Blue wrote:
Hawthorn played the most of the season with half their list out and still managed to make it further than us. We should have enough depth in the list now to cover a bloke like Jamison
we have a plethora of backman- Duigan, Laidler, Bower, Hendo, Watson, Thornton, Scotland Yarren, Gibbs , Russell , Joseph , Touhy, White and the new bloke Bootsma if we can't cover a bloke for 5-6 games we are not as good as we think we are
Most clubs have 5 to 6 players on their injury list each week

Jamison was on the park in 5 of our 8 losses last year


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:14 pm 
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/stress-reaction-to-back-makes-michael-jamison-late-cup-starter/story-e6frf9jf-1226265618499[/quote]
It's an extra frustration when you don't know who to believe, especially when one source is The HUN :?[/quote]

Did either of you read the article?[/quote]of course not ! :lol:[/quote]


UM maybe not closely enuff... :oops:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:21 pm 
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They got it early according to Andy McKay on Sen!
Will lighten his load for 4-5 weeks and he WILL play 1 or 2 nab cup games before rd1.
No fractures but had it not been detected early would've led to fracturing


Lets see if all those knocking the club for allegedly playing injured players, now gives it a pat on the back for detecting an imminent injury 'early doors'. :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:24 pm 
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Well given that they can't stop Ratts from saying "early doors", which has been happening for years, I remain skeptical :sly:

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 2:26 pm 
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BluesRockMyWorld wrote:


Well played, BRMW... :)


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:14 pm 
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I think we need to treat Jamo like Clark Keating. He only needs to play 6-8 games a year. Target hs program for Aug-Sep and just rest him for the other 10 months of the year.

We will never get a full season out of him so let's accept that and manage him accordingly.

:lol:

Good early prevention on this one, unlike some of the stupid soft tissue injuries and shoulder ops of last year. Sounds like he'll miss round 1...






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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:22 pm 
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Can we change the title to Stress Reaction instead of Fractures - we are going to jinx the kid. :razz:


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:36 pm 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
Can we change the title to Stress Reaction instead of Fractures - we are going to jinx the kid. :razz:


The treatment is pretty much the same. The major difference is the way they are diagnosed (one with a bone scan, the other an x-ray). He'll be back in a month or so, but I do wonder if he puts up with unnecessary tightness in the back muscles. Needs to communicate that to Doc Baressi and co. perhaps a little better than what he's been doing. It's in this area alone that i want footballers to have a professional (read prima donna) tennis-pro like attitude to their bodies.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:50 pm 
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Let's hope this doesn't turn out like it has in the past couple of years where the club plays down injuries and we're left waiting week in week out for returns which were never gonna happen in the time frame given.


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 08, 2012 3:53 pm 
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I know that the CFC do have a history of falsely reporting the length of the injury and at other times not reporting at all.
There may though, be a small possibility that at times we really just aren't sure.

McKay does seem more of a straight shooter though and do hope that information does come through, just the way it is.
Get the impression that McKay doesn't want to put himself in a position where he'd caught out lying, either.


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