Three words on the mighty Ms Hendricks:

Mo

Tor

Boat

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

You have to love Filthy, Rich and Catflap!!

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Not sure why I'd miss out?

About 60 per cent of grand final tickets in the AFL members reserve are allocated firstly to members of the competing clubs. There are only about 4,000 Carlton AFL full members. So that will leave the numbers for the other competing club - let's say for arguments sake it's Collingwood. They have about 8,000 full AFL members (the greatest amount of any club). Capacity on Grand Final day for the AFL reserve is about 23,000 so as always I'd have to line up for my ticket, but I'd be a pretty safe bet to get one.

First time in 20 years as an AFL Member that I missed out on a Grand Final ticket last year - I hope you are OK for this year Doc as I have a feeling that Sept 29 is going to be a very special day.

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flower!











(am I doing it right?)

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#GUILTY

Not sure how you could have missed. You mean you queued overnight and still missed out?

If push did come to shove (highly unlikely) and I was without ticket, then guess what? I buy one!

I don't share your confidence, if it was Carlton v Collingwood, and you were banking on getting a ticket as a non competing club full AFL Member you might be disapointed. It's only about $10 to nominate your club isn't it?

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Does that mean you're an AFL Member still? But you're not a Carlton member so the change you've made is just to not select Carlton as your club support?

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

Carlton receive $138 for an AFL Member with Carlton club support. A full priced membership is more than $138.

This is the reason why AFL Members with a Carlton club support didn't receive a scarf or certificate recognising years of support.

I was always under the belief Carlton recive received the equivalent of a full priced membership for a member with Carlton club support, but apparantly this isn't the case.

I'd be more than happy to make up the shortfall as an extra to my AFL Membership, but rather than make a phone call to collect the extra $60 or a little extra from me, the club employs a third party to harass me 6 times during the year to buy a $200 raffle ticket that I end up resenting and getting my back up over.

Doc is spot on, we're going ok and in isolation doing well. If you're happy with that, thats ok, but if you want the club to be the best it can, and reach out to its supporters and member base then we're miles behind.

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"The ability to speak doesn't make you intelligent." Qui-Gon Jinn 15-05-2005

"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

The AFL deem what is a "full priced club membership" and the deeming just happens to be $138 - this applies to every club not just Carlton - I more than make up for any difference to what Carlton "deem" to be the full priced membership during the course of the year - I certainly would not do it by buying a $200 raffle ticket - but more than happy to buy $200 worth of merchandise from the Carlton shop.

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I wish I could only attend half a dozen games.
I don't understand why you don't want to help the club win #17 by contributing financially to it. I am sure you have your reasons but being overseas isn't one IMHO.
I am (was) a strategic planner and consultant but don't whinge because I didn't get to look at the draft of the club's strategic plan for comment. I just watch from afar and give them the cost of a membership so they can put it towards #17 in whatever way the board sees fit.
Then I sit up all night and watch the footy or listen to it on the internet.

I think we can get too caught up in the politics of it all, regardless of how close we are to it, or how far away. If we concentrate on enjoying or lamenting the on-field performances and maybe dissecting them here from time to time, we would be better served. This forum for me is a place to share opinions but it just degenerates into people having a lovefest or hatefest far too often. I really do enjoy reading almost every tread until it becomes a circular waltz. Like this one has become.

In Mexico, it is not compulsory to vote. I, of course, by not yet being a citizen, usually try not to ge involved in political arguments but I do say one thing, especially to the young folk who tell me they aren't going to vote. "If you don't vote, please don't come to me and complain about the elected government because you had your chance to vote for or against it and weren't interested."

Members of the club have the opportunity to vote for the board (when there is an opposed position up for grabs). If one isn't a voting member and hasn't voted, I think it's a bit rich criticizing the incumbents.

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Don't doubt that you more than make up for the shortfall AGRO, but that's not the way the club see it.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

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I have a different theory. Some people are highly analytical, and as such, are more drawn to be critical than those that have an aptitude for faith, who are more drawn to be loyal.[/quote]
some guys are like cannon fodder.
Ove the trenches theyre asked to go.. over the trenches they go.
Arms.. limbs.. guts splattered everywhere... unquestioning ... unthinking... death stares you in the face.
Truth is alot of those guys that fought in Gallipoli didnt need to die.
they didnt have to die.. if not for the foolish folly of the guys above them

- What are your legs? - Springs. Steel springs.

- What are they going to do? - Hurl me down the track.

- How fast can you run? - As fast as a leopard.

- How fast will you run? - As fast as a leopard.

Then let's see you do it.

Are you ready, leopard?

On your mark!

Get set!

Come on, boy.

Come on, boy.


DARKNESS


Sometimes people should take a step back and look at things with an open mind.
Blindly following foolish men is not always the right thing to do.

Debate is good.. and this ridiculous stamping down on anything thats critical by guys like DANE and other sycophants just towing the line .. isnt healthy.
DR SHERRIN has every right to contribute to anything Carlton.
Anyone else can read or not read.
Its a forum.
An unofficial forum for people to contribute and get things off their chests.
This continual sugarcoating and hushing down on anything critical and demonising is just totally blind.

- What are your legs? - Springs. Steel springs.

- What are they going to do? - Hurl me down the track.

- How fast can you run? - As fast as a leopard.

- How fast will you run? - As fast as a leopard.

Then let's see you do it.

Are you ready, leopard?

On your mark!

Get set!

Come on, boy.

Come on, boy.

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Due to recent budget cuts and the rising cost of electricity, gas, and oil....... the Light at the End of the Tunnel has been turned off. We apologize for the inconvenience.

A mate of mine feels same as DR SHERRIN.. this year he is donating his membership to a cause that claimed his father.
Now, what the CFC need to understand is members arent a walk up start and choose to be members.
They can just as easily sit at home and watch it on tv.

People have different priorities in life .. and footy isnt always the biggest.

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They do need to understand that and may have just been slow to get out of the blocks chasing and massaging prospective members.
Let's "hope" that the recruitment of a new agency and internal personnel gets us back on track. and up to speed with the more aggressive clubs.
Anyway 50K would suggest that we may have got a few things right through this department, but it won't be easy going.

When people purchase a membership, they aren't thinking primarily of helping a club financially. They're looking to get access and/or a designated seat/area to football matches throughout a season. This year, a Collingwood supporting bogan on Bridge Rd can contribute financially to the club by pumping cash into an Electronic Gaming Machine at the Royal Oak - is he part of 'helping the club win #17?

I've never needed Carlton membership. If I were an MCC member why would I buy a separate membership? But my thought process during the clubs' troubled times was to purchase a membership, be it social club or a 3-gamer. Over the last 2 years, I even got to choose where my money went. This is now no longer an option for supporters.

The club doesn't need my money. They made that choice for me.



I never said that. Not sure how you came to that conclusion. I said it should have been done. What I will say is that when Strategic Plans, feasibility studies or ROI's are being done/bidded for - most companies involved in Sports Consultancy know who is doing what. No one in the sports/government space knew who was doing the Carlton Strategic Plan. And that's because a company who hadn't done one in the sporting sphere was doing it and they hadn't put out a RFT.

For a lot of you - that's fine - and I've got no problem with the selection process here, but are you really happy that your money is being used to pay Greg Swanns' old mates? I'm probably preaching to the wrong crowd. But again...I don't get to choose where my money toward Carlton goes anymore.



Perhaps we do. But critiquing off-field performance is just as important as critiquing on-field stuff.



You've been in Mexico too long. Take a good look at the board. How many were voted in? Even the guy I would've voted in, Ryan Trainor, doesn't have to go through the election process. So members of this club don't necessarily have a vote. And some members voting rights have been taken away when the board decided to change the constitution. No formal apology, merely an 'oversight from the sub-committee' that worked on the changes. That was farcical, and if ever I needed confirmation of how the board was performing - that was it.

I don't have a vote. It was taken away from me. I am no longer a member.

The club song no longer makes me smile, just brings a tear to my eye. "We are the Navy Blues" - no I'm not; the club has made it clear they want nothing to do with me except raid my wallet. "I AM CARLTON" - if you live within a certain distance of the club, and have enough money. You poor people, and non-Melbournites; we'll take your money, but kindly sit in the corner and STFU.

Sport is a tribal thing. We love it because our tribe is beating that other tribe. I don't feel a part of the tribe anymore. I'm just a revenue stream, and not a big enough one to buy me a vote.

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I AM DISENFRANCHISED

Dear oh Dear

Very disillusioned

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That's unfortunate you feel that way or for that matter, were made to feel that way.

I don't know if it's too late, but from my understanding the club is a little more open than it may have been in recent years.
The club will never keep everyone happy all of the time, but for those that have invested a little more than just a membership do deserve to be heard at the very least.

I think Brad said it best for me earlier, as a full AFL member (club support), I was dumped of full 'privileges' that other people get. I have been a member for over 20 years, not entitled to a stupid scarf or certificate all of a sudden. Only reason I tick 'club support' is for Grand Final ticket security.

Will still be there week in week out, and when we win the flag I'll feel as excluded from the club as I have felt when we have won our previous flags.

It's not just us though, most clubs are clueless when it comes to connecting to members and making you feel part of something. I'd say the death of our social club contributed to this greatly also.

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