I think Chris Scott might object to being sat on.

However, my point was that Ratts is no longer the new young coach. In fact, I'm sure you said there would be a change from Ratts to a new young coach ...as well as a major war..at the time we win our next flag. almost certain you predicted it would not be Ratts coaching. (Almost, and too lazy to back check.)
Anyway, I hope Ratts will still be coaching when we win that flag.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

I said that we will win a flag with a new young coach.

But I have made it clear that while it might be - this will not necessarily be the next flag.

The fact that we have a group of players that are capable of winning more than one premiership with one or more of these with the current coach is something that has to be allowed for.

Which is why I was careful to do state things in this way.

The next oil war is likely to have a major destabilising effect on the middle east and possibly also Russia.

If Pakistan is invaded or attacked - the destabilisation will also include China.

Therefore the next conflict will only be the start of a series of new wars.

So the major war background to a and change of coach scenario is clearly a distinct possibility.

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My Blue Heaven

Yep....if Chris Scott's the new Couch....I wonder how Paul feels about that; after all; he did win a Brownlow at Geelong.........

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

We are certainly narrowing things down; I'll be getting excited when our coach is either new and young or not..

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Astounding!

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

It was probably a bit more astounding when I was saying these things in 2003.

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My Blue Heaven

Link?

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Those comments were initially made on Talking Carlton's predecessor - The Blue View.

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My Blue Heaven

Here's a link I found..re posting it here in case you missed it.



Sure sounds like you don't think Ratts will be the coach when we win the flag.

Here's another quote taken from 'Ratts Future.'



and another taken from WB V Carlton


and, from the topic 'Greg Williams on Brett Ratten'.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

These events could still occur.

But if they were experienced - it would mean that season 2012 failed to meet expectations and this resulted in Ratten being terminated before the end of his contract.

I feel that a more optimistic view of our future is a more likely future at this point.

Dont you ?

There is more than one way in which a premiership winning new young coach could come.

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My Blue Heaven

Experienced coaches such as?

You wouldn't just be being deliberately vague given its highly likely that if Ratten were sacked, they'd be replaced by an experienced coach rather than an untried guy?

Been reading the John Edward playbook?

I'm getting a feeling the new coach....will have probably played senior AFL before...or will have come close to it......and it will be a shocking appointment....I'm feeling there's a vowel in his name....or it at least sounds like there is? Does this sound familiar to anyone in the audience? He says he left his club in rather....acrimonious circumstances?

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

I think we all have a go at predicting, and a lot of the time we are wrong.
We are, after all, only human.
Sometimes, when an intuitve flash or hunch is bang on, that's a great feeling. It's also good to be able to have a laugh at ourselves when we miss the mark. (so to speak.)

As I remembered you Blueman, definitely predicting that Ratts would not be the 17th flag coach, it irked me when you suddenly said we'd get that flag this year, and then tried to make Ratts fit in to your old predictions. I think the old quotes I found, pretty much show you that is true.

Like you, I hope we win this year. I am a big fan of Ratts as he loves our club so much, and I hope it is him.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

There was certainly no joy on my part in suggesting that Ratten departs unexpectedly - I want him to be successful..

However this could still occur.

This would mean that we would have a bad 2012 season, Ratten is judged as the scapegoat for this outcome and is sacked.

This is something for which there is no indication at the moment. But stranger things have happened.

The other factor is that I have thought for a long time that the 17th was won during a war - and with the current Iranian situation as it is - this is in my view more likely than our 2012 season turning sour and Ratten being shafted..

This is why on balance I said what I did

The other obvious scenario that allows for all factors is that Ratts wins a flag or two and is then replaced by the new young coach in the same way as has occurred at Geelong. In this way, he still leaves, is replaced and wins a flag in the meantime.

It is rather the same situation but on a different level with Setanta O'Hailpin - I said that he would depart unexpectedly on this forum - and I happily thought that I was wrong on that right up to the end of the 2011 season.

Sadly, I was correct.

I did not want him to leave, but I felt that he somehow would.

Sometimes the issue is one of timing.

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My Blue Heaven

Blueman,

I am a believer and a follower of your prophecy's. Keep up your good work.

If you think of a bunch of outcomes that you believe will come to pass, but these outcomes have no dates attached to them, so you cannot accurately place them in time, then this is the situation I which I sense.

You have to carefully look at the pieces that you have and then logically construct a scenario based on the clues that you can see.

Sometimes this might mean building a couple of possible scenarios.

None of us know the future, but some have a few bits and pieces on the table to work with.

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My Blue Heaven

Correct again. It is like one big jigsaw puzzle.

So sometime in the future we will win no.17 and it will be with a new or an old coach

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Setanta left unexpectedly? I think we all thought it quite possible.

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Between our dreams and actions lies this world

Quite PLAUSIBLE even.........!


kindest regards tommi

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that'siti'mnotchangingthistagain......!

I think Setanta was in the gun for all of last year and his thread reflects that. No marks for claiming that was any more than probable.

You should watch 'the Mentalist'. 'Predicting the future' is not possible. Putting together a possible scenario based on known facts and probabilities may lead to an acceptable strike rate. Anyone who has done a formal decision-making course or taught one, knows how to minimise probable risks and maximise probable outcomes by studyng the present situation.

We have been in a constant state of war since 1990 in the middle east, Timor, the Soloman Islands and some African countries. If you don't think so, ask the soldiers who have fought there or 'kept the peace'. The 'situation with Iran', backed by Russia is no different from 'the situation' with North Korea's nuclear ambitions, backed by China, which, by the way is still at war with South Korea (they signed a truce, never rescinding the declaration of war from 1952ish). So one might say that we have won almost ALL our premierships during time of war. Certainly the last half of them.
1945 WWII
1968, 70, 72 Vietnam
79, 81-82 the Cold War in Europe
87 Iran/Iraq but that might have been 1988 we certainly sent UN observers to watch the shells flying about that time.
95 the Gulf Wars.

The world is in an unstable state, especially with the Arab nations looking for a change to their systems of government or rule by decree. They are traditionally fiefdoms but in this age of western democracy and electronic information, trying to keep people under the thumb bu preventing them from getting educated and having access to the country's wealth is getting more difficult. The rich African countries where the president gets the oil royalties are similar, which is why we have so many refugees from there. The people as we say, 'are revolting'. So I am going to take out my crystal ball and predict the future too.

There will be no meaningful peace in the Middle East or North Africa in my lifetime.
Carlton will have the opportunity to win a premiership in my lifetime.
Brett Rattan will not be the coach of Carlton forever.

How am I going so far?

Therefore, It is possible Carlton will win a premiership during a time of war during the next ten years without Brett Rattan as coach.

Call me the new Nostradamus. Or Blueman. Or Patrick Jane for that matter.

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Let slip the Blues of war (with apologies to William Shakespeare) (and Sir Francis Bacon, just in case)