Kennedy's 10 goal game this year probably qualifies as 'taking a game apart'.

If we're wanting Jarrad to dominate at CHF, we need to understand that we're expecting him to do something at age 28 that he's never managed before. Not impossible but incredibly unlikely.

If he gets 3 years at his age and recent injury status, he's done very well for himself. Maybe there's still a sense of looking after father/sons more than you would anyone else, and despite footy being ultra-professional now, I don't think that's a bad thing.

Why is everyone putting the boots in Waitey. Unbelievable. When he is on, he is bloody exciting.

We are going to be so much better when he is fit and in the side....

Again, how do we know this is going to happen?

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waite is so shit, broken down hack, over rated

lets trade him for goddard and their first pick or pick 1 to the GWS etc etc etc

the logic of some of you people is

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

I'm sorry but I am truly disgusted with some of this vitriol against Waity.
Actually the crap posted against Bower isn't far off either, especially how most of you had him our CHB for the next 10 years at the start of 2011.

Waite is a super player. Just used in the wrong position and not allowed to play to his potential.

With Kruezer, Henderson, Hampson, Thornton, Walker, Mitchell, Casboult, Setanta?, White, even Jamo all able to fill key forward positions at varying times hopefully he will play as a wingman who can drop back or go forward when needed!!!!

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Ah yes: Waite to the midfield. Just to round out the logicians convention.

Tell me why he couldn't do what you're probably expecting of him in a roaming CHF role?

Walker, Thornton & White don't even meet the athletic requirements of a key forward role.

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Thanks for reminding me why I post less and less. You really are a poor excuse for an individual.

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Psychologist or Psycho?

Not much scope for earning a quid as a psychologist with a couchside manner like that!

Well said Buddy, agree 100%

Vitriol?
Let's not be drama queens here. All I've seen is genuine debate.

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I asked a simple enough question, about a point you've made dozens of times on this forum, with zero supporting evidence.

The last time Waite played midfield for Carlton, it was in a high HF role and he weighed less than 90 kilos. It was also about 2006. The only bloke who plays the 'Richo role' in modern football is Goodes, and he is a freak. Waite is not in the class of athleticism required.

Forgive me for being short with you, but you offer little explanation for your views, and then get shitty when people roll their eyes at some of your more out-there points. You got Yarran to HB spot on, so I am asking you: what exact function do you want Waite to play in midfield, that could not be fulfilled in a roaming CHF role?

I would love for Waite to play at CHF, but he's the best prospect we have for FF right now.

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I'm also surprised at the negativity towards Waite. Nothing wrong with some robust discussion though.

In my view, Jarrad is in our two or three most important players structurally (with Jamison and Judd). He is ESSENTIAL to our premiership aspirations.

We look so much more dangerous with him in the side. He straightens us up immeasurably. He has a great leap, is a very good contested mark, has pace and athleticism, and his kicking for goal while awkward looking has improved to be quite reasonable.

That doesnt mean he gets whatever he wants at the bargaining table.

He probably has unfulfilled potential, largely due to injury and misplaced aggression at times. Maybe he looks better than he really is. Appearance vs reality. I've always liked the look of him though, probably because of his rare athleticism.

I'd always seen his ideal position as CHB (not just because of that one game at Etihad against Riewoldt).

However, in the current Carlton side he MUST play at FF.

Lets hope we can keep him on the park in 2012.

As I see it, most of the anti-Waite people are anti because he hasn't been a consistent producer because of lack of games due to brain fades or injuries.
On the other hand, most of the pro-Waite people point out that when he is on or available, he is an exciting player who has the ability to play both ends and is hard to man up when he is in space.

Both camps want him to be more consistent or more available.

IMO, he is an important part of the team when he is available so that puts me in the 'pro' camp I suppose but I don't believe he deserves a long contract because he has not displayed enough ability to stay on the park in the past few years. I am also of the opinion that F/S counts for something because it is the only sentiment left in the game.

I think the club is right to offer him two years. He is lucky they didn't offer him only one based on 2011, which saw him play about half the games he might have done. At least he didn't get suspended this time around.

If he goes OK over the next two years, he can always try for another contract. His manager can't expect the club not to be a bit gunshy after the last couple of years.

My 'trade Waite for Goddard' posts were made only half in jest. I truly want to see Waite at Carlton for its next flag. I think he can play CHF as Jimmae suggests because he has the space there to run a bit higher and get us into the F50 instead of trying to lead out from the goals. I think Hendo is destined to play down back because he did such a great job when Jamo was out. I like Hendo at FF or CHF as well but it seems we will soon have another superstar tall forward option coming through, based on the messianic posts in the McIntyre thread.

Off topic, I also think the increased level of personal attacks on TC reflects badly on the site. Everybody is entitled to an opinion, even if it seems absurd to us. And so everybody is entitled to disagree with the opinion but IMO, saying someone is obviously stupid, doesn't enhance the argument either way and speaks volumes for the poster's lack of ability to argue an issue.

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If the forward line is to work the way it should work next year then Waite will play Thornton's role.
Hampson will be in the square and Kruezer will be CHF. Coaching staff need to work on Waite not being a key player in our forward structure due to age and inconsistency.
We really need Hampson to stand up next season.

Ratts on SEN just said that Waite's contract is almost done. Just putting the final touches on it, should be done in the next week.

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Bring back the laurel wreath logo!!!

Hampson is not, and never will be a FF. Unfortunately just doesnt clunk enough. I find it very hard to believe that we will play 3 x 200cm+ players next year.

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If our 3 A-grade rucks stay fit one of them will be wasted in the reserves. Fair to say though that injuries will likely occur.

I reckon Hampson can do what Trent West does for Geelong.

Yes, but then he's not playing as a key forward is he?