Jealousy, fear, envy, sour grapes. Obvious really.

Judd = Ferrari

Swan = Holden Maloo Ute

I love Juddy more and more each day.

Fast closing on Jezza as my all time favourite Carlton player.

Pure Joy.

And all accomplished while dealing with opposition defensive tactics hitherto never before experienced by any player in the history of the game.

Ditch your mate Sean. He's a dckhead.

This exactly.

Its all the fact they hate us because we are a threat again. We may not do it this year, but we should be in the mix for a while.

If we went down like we did to Essendon*, we would of been going into meltdown on this forum about OUR deficiencies. Seems many Bomber fans refuse to ever acknowledge they could possibly be being flogged in a finals match due to their own shortcomings. Its all OMG CARLTON CHEATS $@^$%*# WE ARE SO BRAVE, INJURIES, COURAGE, HIRDY, BOMBER, KEY POSITION PROSPECTS (so on and so forth).

I like how Pies fans say it will be a failure for us if we don't win a flag with Judd, though conveniently forget the 14 flagless seasons their future coach Nathan Buckley played in.