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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:10 pm 
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:17 pm 
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That happens sometimes with Ticketek guys, wait a few minutes.

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Does anyone know if Hammer actually rucked on the weekend, or just sat in the goal square?


Stats Central: Hampson 6.2gls 22dsp 10mks 18H/O


Thanks. That is a stunning game at any level. 22 disposals for him - Hampson at senior level finds it difficult to crack double figures normally. He is either learning the game better or they just ran away from him given his sheer size!

That's the kind of form he had pre-season, and in the fortnight prior to injury. He should be playing next week.

In: Hampson, Lucas
Out: Davies, Ellard

Our biggest problems against West Coast last time around were losing Jamison, Judd and Murphy's understudies being Carrazzo & Gibbs, not enough spread through the middle, Kreuzer being ineffective in ruck spells, and a grand total of 3 marks inside 50.

Thornton was the lone tall in a very disappointing performance. We cannot fool ourselves that Thornton will deliver against a more physically mature and disciplined (not to mention fit as of the second quarter) West Coast defence without serious time up forward from Setanta, spelling with someone else who can take a grab. As of right this minute, that bloke is Hampson.

What's even more brilliant is that Hammer can be counted on to win his share of taps too. Suddenly, we have a forward line that never wilts when Warnock gets tired, we tell the smalls & Walker they can push up and double back to get the crumb rather than providing a leading target, and Robinson can spend his time in midfield rather than having to provide a lead target.

We saw the latter in yesterday's game, and while it worked, it worked on a barely fit 36-year old. We don't have that luxury next week. We've seen the other tactics used sparingly until recently, where Walker has injected some run into midfield very well, as has Jeff. Eddie still does his best work up forward, but we don't need everyone contributing through the middle of the park all the time.

Finally, if we need a 3rd defensively minded midfielder after Carrazzo and Armfield, why not play Joseph or Gibbs in such a role. Or if it's a runner, why not Lucas? The kid has the tank to run all day, and he adds so much to us when we're in possession by virtue of the separation he gets on his opponent, and knowing the right kind of areas to run to as an option. With the extra length through the middle of the park, I'd rather have a kid who will get the space, rather than someone who might milk the space from lax defending.

Yes I know some of you think I hate Ellard, but I was impressed that he was a bit fresher in the legs this week. That being said the coach didn't use him that much, and he had little offensive impact on the game. His kicking was clean, but it wasn't as sharp as I've seen from him so I think he is a massive risk against a hard running opponent. Yes he's a fit bloke, yes he is very disciplined, yes he can do a good job when he's right, except he's not; Lucas in for mine.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:34 pm 
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Hampson's stats for the year:

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/pg-c ... un-hampson

Im a big fan of Hampson and no doubt he had a good month but those VFL stats are a world ahead of these. No doubt there is a VFL / AFL conversion factor for this.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:37 pm 
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The game will be screened at Visy Park!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:37 pm 
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There'll be a big screen at Princes Park on Saturday night. :beer:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:37 pm 
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Anyone received their ticket email yet then?


Nope not yet.... ordered mine right @ 11.00am ....nothing in my account either.....i expect we will need to be a little patient


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:44 pm 
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Great initiative by the club! Said before it would be a shame if they didn't do something like this.

I expect it will be packed and make for a great Carlton atmosphere watching the game. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:47 pm 
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Geez Setanta would be unlucky to be dropped.

Sure, i'd feel more confident with Hammer and Warnock going up against Cox and NitNat-PaddyWhack, but Setanta battled hard on sunday and was more than serviceable. Should have had 2 goals and provided a good target up forward!
It was definitely the 'Setanta's little helpers' show on display.

Perhaps put hammer or Setanta as the sub?

I wouldn't mind seeing Lucas or Touhey back in. I reckon some run and carry stuff might just get us over the line at the WACA.

We haven't lost interstate this year, and coming up against a side who may be loosing Cox and Kerr could really play into our hands (sufice to Gibbs being fit of course).

The only thing i'm really worried about are the Umpires. They always give West Coast a dream run over there. They are so heavilly crowd influenced. Seeing that Josh Kennedy out of bounds incident was one of the dumbest non decisions i've ever seen.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 12:52 pm 
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Setanta can't ruck for shit, never has been able to. Cox/Nic Nat would slaughter him so badly in there, you may as well just put four smaller guys in the centre square and rove to the opposition.

I'm assuming Kruze is gone for the year. If so, Hammer just has to play. If Setanta was even passable as a relief ruckman, it'd be a different story, but it's really not his go.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:03 pm 
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Tickets....check
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Good time had by all....check :smile:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:23 pm 
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Hammer replaces Davies for this game IMO, unless Laidler is suspended. Carlos is needed up forward, he very rarely gets out marked, a key reason why we lost last time against the Eagles.

Other changes? Don't think we need any.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:26 pm 
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ryan2000 wrote:

I wouldn't mind seeing Lucas or Touhey back in. I reckon some run and carry stuff might just get us over the line at the WACA.



I'd prefer Lillee and Thomson in for some chin music. :grin:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:33 pm 
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Hammer replaces Davies for this game IMO, unless Laidler is suspended. Carlos is needed up forward, he very rarely gets out marked, a key reason why we lost last time against the Eagles.

Other changes? Don't think we need any.


I agree. He dropped quite a few marks but anything he dropped fell front and square at his feet for Betts & co.

If I was Ratten though I would tell him if he ever plays on after taking a mark less than 20 out ever again, it's the last time he plays for the footy club. Yes I know he got the goal but several life-giving blood vessels in my neck were close to giving way at the time I can tell you!!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:40 pm 
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Assuming no suspensions or injuries Lucas, Thuohy, Hampson, Kruze all in line to come in.

Davies and Ellard the two most likely outs.

Cannot discount the COX/Nic Nat factor. Its the best ruck combo in the league and Nic Nat is a clearance machine. If we want to win this one we have to smash them in clearances and contested footy and get the ball going in our direction more often than not.

It's teh toghest assigment in footy but If we get over the Eagles, who knows what we might be able to achieve.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:41 pm 
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I'm starting to think that Ellard's first name is 'Out'

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:54 pm 
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Ponkstar wrote:
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Hammer replaces Davies for this game IMO, unless Laidler is suspended. Carlos is needed up forward, he very rarely gets out marked, a key reason why we lost last time against the Eagles.

Other changes? Don't think we need any.


I agree. He dropped quite a few marks but anything he dropped fell front and square at his feet for Betts & co.

If I was Ratten though I would tell him if he ever plays on after taking a mark less than 20 out ever again, it's the last time he plays for the footy club. Yes I know he got the goal but several life-giving blood vessels in my neck were close to giving way at the time I can tell you!!


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What I loved was that there was about a 2 second delay from Carlton supporters cheering after he kicked our furst goal!!! WTF SETANTA!!!!!

he cannot be dropped though... Contested eveything and did a great job.

Assuming Laidler and Gibbs are fine, I wouldn't change the team!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:55 pm 
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I'm starting to think that Ellard's first name is 'Out'


:thumbsup:

His first and middle name this week will be Centre - David


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:57 pm 
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I was right in front of Setant when he kicked that goal. I was stunned and shocked that he did that, after the previous week. Then we realized it was a goal, but we went white as a ghost.


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2011 1:59 pm 
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In Kruezer or Dampson. out Davies


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Apparently the tickets could take up to 24 hours to come through

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