All the more reason to send Hendo forward. Or are you going to put Casboult's name up to come in and play the 2nd KPF role?

Thornton & Bower should be in the mix for the second KPD role considering our issues at the other end. The club have made a very narrow-minded decision about Henderson, and it's going to bite them on the arse this season if they stick with it, at the trade table if they continue to persist in the off-season, and next season as they integrate another senior tall into the mix to play CHF, as well as nudging out a bunch of senior & developing players in defence.

It's stupid; it's naive; it's unimaginative; it's lazy. It's the CFC way apparently.

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Austin has never shown anything ever at AFL level. He doesn't have any significant attribute which will see him succeed, hes not fast, a good mark, read the play well or have great skills. He seems mediocre/average in every aspect of his game.

Setanta is athletic, has kicked bags of 3-5 goals in AFL matches on near on half a dozen occasions im guessing, gives a contest, can pinch hit in the ruck, tries his guts out and gives a contest at very worst.

Forget Austin, hes finished as an AFL footballer.

You'd swear the only thing holding us back from winning a flag was Austin

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So who should of been playing on Hall/Cloke/Hurley etc in Jamo's absence? Thornton on these guys would of been murdered.

Hendo has been very good in defence, much better than when he was forward. We may of found another KPP defender which no one thought we had.

Bite us at the trade table? How? Is it harder to get a forward than a defender?

Why should we forget Austin and play Setanta?

Austin's papers look stamped, yet it's about utilising a resource we have who is just as capable of giving a contest as O'hAilpin.

Just look at what Jamison did last night against Gibson.

Austin is mobile, quick(for a tall), a big unit and a good kick.

Kreuzer struggled to outmark and hold his ground against Eric Mackenzie, yet Aussie outmarked him at CHF and delivered to the right spot down the line.

Ratten then switched Austin to the backline.

Theres only one man who can save us:



BRING BACK THE FEV!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Who said that Austin would win us a flag?

It's OK to pump up Setanta, yet Austin shouldn't be given a go.

Setanta is just De luca with intensity.

He will provide a contest and take the pressure off Walker, Kreuzer and Thornton. Was playing well before he got injured.

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Setanta is smarter than that.

Ratten is just too conservative with his selections.

I've made the point for years that we have not addressed our lack of size at key posts. For a long time, Waite was the only player on our list you could back to take on some of the bigger forwards. Then we saw Jamo get a bit of bulk, and felt more confident about his play.

Then, we finally drafted some giant KPDs in Watson & McCarthy, so the club obviously agrees with me.


He's been decent, but the key phrase you're leaving out is "this season." And furthermore, the reason as to why this is the case pertains to what he brought to the table last year, compared to how he's performing now.

There is nothing revolutionary about Lachie in defence; he's had spells there in every season he's spent at an AFL club. He's just one more KPD in what is now a huge list at the CFC.


It is, but I'm thinking with regards to us becoming desperate to acquire a forward and how that will drive up our price, and desperate to off-load some defenders, where we might cut players who are of value to the squad or at the trade table.]

If the switch of Lachie to defence had us lined up to developing an AA CHB, I'd be all for it, but Lachie is not opening the game up that much, when you compare it to his form last season at CHF. You could see how promising he was there, whereas now it's patchy 1-on-1 work with glimpses of talent with his disposal off HB.

It's a tragic waste of the club's playing list and resources. Whoever is responsible for sustaining the move should hang their head in shame because they've failed the club and Henderson by persisting with this.

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Really jim, you're a lot smarter than this.

Where we're playing Hendo the rest of the season will have no impact on trade values.

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I'm not too far off actually agreeing with you!
Was watching a replay when Fev kicked 7 against the pies this morning and started thinking what we'd be like with him in the side. Imagine the big unit out there... Geez when he was on, he surely was on! but on his bad - he was shitehouse!!!!!!

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Of course it will.

Club A comes to us asking after a player, let's say Bower. We state a price, let's say a mid-first round pick in this year's draft (so late teens, early 20s).

Club A says "Are you joking? He's barely played senior footy all season despite being fit for a decent patch."

We say "Oh yep, but we backed in Hendo, and now we're going to install Hendo into our forward line again."

Club A say "Bullshit, that might not pan out, so you're overvaluing the player."

Bower steps in and says "I don't like the lack of faith you've shown in my playing ability, send me to club A, where I know I'll get a crack at senior footy."

Club A come back with an offer of a second round pick, we accept.

We walk over to Club B and ask for a youngish KPF who's drifted in and out of their team. We offer market value, perhaps a late first round (mid 20s) pick.

Club B say "Sweeten the pot as we see a place for this player over the next 18 months as he comes on." We refuse.

Club B call in a mediator. We point to the Bower example, while Club B point at a straight-forward rationale behind their initial value of the player, plus a premium due to the loss to the list structure for his departure.

Deadline fast approaching, we look at the idea of throwing in a fringe player or third round pick, and the mediator sees this as a plausible offer. Do we blink? I don't know.
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That could happen. Does it concern me much? Not a great deal.

What does concern me is how we can lose patience with a long-term player over a 6 month period after some injury woes, and then do his head so much he cannot function as a forward in the same tasks he does fine as a defender. That's poor coaching and development. Lachie of 12 months ago is a better forward than Lachie of today. Lachie of today is a marginally better defender than Lachie of 12 months ago.

What's happened, and what have we done to rectify the situation? What are our designs for the forward line over the next month and for next season? All I see is impatience and doggedness in decisions like these.

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I've also left out that declaring Henderson to be a defender opens up the possibility that one of Thornton or Bower could get the flick simply so we have the space on the list to balance the numbers at either end of the ground.

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yeah, so what ?

Thorton was not right last night - he back away from contest to often and it was unlike him - that hit to the head last week must have affected him

I dont like the bloke but Ohalpin should have played last night

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Clubs know as much as Carlton do on what Hendo and Bower have to offer and what their value is. No one is going to be fooled or change their view by what we do for the rest of the season.

And if we're going to fool ourselves into thinking we need to offload a defender because of it, then God help us.

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....Hendo is [imo] the CHF we need.. ..we got desperate with Jamo down, and have been playing him down back.. ..but with Jamo back i really hope we swing him fwd cos we have no CHF at all, but a few options to play thru CHB.. ..he;s also running better, looking fitter and a hard working CHF would really solve a lot of our problems going fwd..

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Clubs also know when they have a bargaining position available to them to extract value out of a trade.


I hope you're right.

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