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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:42 am 
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No love on Main Event Ch518?


Hadn't thought of that...

I don't have Fox but how does that work. In the sports bar I normally go to to watch games on Main Event, sometimes they have it, sometimes they don't.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:43 am 
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Didn't want to start a new thread but I'm Sydney staying next to Darling Harbour and I want to to know which place nearby would have this match on TV live


Don't think it will be on live at all up here.

Delayed telecast either on Fox from 11pm or Ch7 from 11:20pm.

Welcome to Sydney...


No love on Main Event Ch518?

yes it on 518 in Sydney

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:49 am 
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Excellent.

bluecedar - I'm sure there are a number of pubs where you could watch it - if in doubt, you could always try Star City.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 11:56 am 
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CarltonClem wrote:
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No love on Main Event Ch518?


Hadn't thought of that...

I don't have Fox but how does that work. In the sports bar I normally go to to watch games on Main Event, sometimes they have it, sometimes they don't.


It was the compromise the AFL and TV stations came to that allowed live coverage of Friday and Saturday night games into poor-cousin markets. The coverage just comes through on 518, but you don't need to pay extra. You get no post-match stuff, though, perhaps an interview on the ground after the siren, but that's about it.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:33 pm 
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Guys. I appreciate your feedback. Really appreciate it.

Go blues. Have a feeling blues will come from behind and snatch a victory

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:08 pm 
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I don't understand all the love for Hawthorn

They were very average against Norf and not that far back Brisbane, and haven't beaten Geelong or Coll either - in fact they got spanked by the Pies, granted they had injury issues at the time

Their form is as good as ours really

Our midfield is better but they have the Buddy and Rioli show so could go either way but personally I agree with Gary Lyon that we have been waiting for this game all year and will be really UP for it tonight - hopefully the boys don't let me down as I genuionely expect a CFC win tonite


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:17 pm 
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Which is what? Because winning certainly won't do it (it'll be because of their injuries, us having more #1 picks etc). So best think of another reason.


I love the Carlton conspiracy theorists we have. :grin:

Do you honestly care if a commentator says we have a lot of #1 picks? fact is... we do! And if we win a premiership with them in the team.... we've won a premiership! For one, I couldn't give a stuff about style points, or how we win, or who is injured on the other team, or what any commentator says. Do you follow the team wanting it to win, or wanting to read glowing articles in the press? It's all about the result right?

So anyway, my take on why it's important to win tonight.

Fact is Hawthorn have done whatever they've wanted to do against us - for the most part - over the last several years. Anyone who was at the ground last year I'm sure would agree that while the margin wasn't as extreme as some of the hidings we were on the end of in the dark years - the gulf between the teams in terms of appetite for contest was as big as any gap over the last decade. And all the more galling for the fact that we thought we belonged in their company last year. I knew walking out of the ground last year that we had a lot further to go as a team than what I thought walking in.

In most commentators eyes, our list of required 'big scalps' is a list of three - the obvious three. And for validation as a credible challenger to Collingwood, we need to beat one of them. I think that's a completely fair position to take from their perspective. And it's exactly the same point which has been leveled at the bulldogs for the last several years, and has ultimately been proven to be true - so hardly a Carlton conspiracy there.

I honestly believe, that the vast majority of press coverage of the club and players has been fair (in 2011). There have been more articles praising, rightly, the improvement in our list than I can recall in any other season (possible exception 2000, although there was a huge amount of Essendon* that year as well for obvious reasons). I also honestly believe that the vast, vast majority of talk in the press if we win tonight will be centered around our arrival as a legitimate challenger this year - with no strings or qualifiers attached.

Which will be great to hear, and will provide a lot of external validation of how I feel about the team, but ultimately won't have any impact at all about how I feel about the win - because the win is why I follow the team, not the validation.

Go Blues! 24 points! :thumbsup:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:35 pm 
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I don't give a shit what they say about us (not as much as I used to at least), just pointing out what WILL happen if we win :razz:

It's just a fact that some of the 'experts' out there won't pay us any dues no matter what we accomplish. Even if we win a flag there will be some backhanded praise amidst the pats on the back. Part of the beauty of supporting this football club is knowing how bad our success tastes to everyone else :smoking:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:09 pm 
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Unfortunately ... I think Hawthorn are playing a bit better at the moment ... reckon they will win by 3 or 4 goals ... but:

We could win ... and I hope we win.

Go Blues!

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:10 pm 
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bluecedar wrote:
Didn't want to start a new thread but I'm Sydney staying next to Darling Harbour and I want to to know which place nearby would have this match on TV live



there is a pub just in front of where the South Styne ferry is in Darling Harbour that has about 6 TV screens showing sport - just go in there and ask the guy behind the bar to turn one on to AFL -They do it every time I go there

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:16 pm 
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Every Hawthorn flog supporter on SEN this morning was outraged that we could even be uttered in the same breath as them. Looking forward to sticking it right up 'em!! Blues by 17 in a tight contest

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:48 pm 
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BlueRob wrote:
Unfortunately ... I think Hawthorn are playing a bit better at the moment ... reckon they will win by 3 or 4 goals ... but:

We could win ... and I hope we win.

Go Blues!


:lol: :lol:
C'mon Marvin....back to bed and get some rest.

May as well be happy before the game...
time enough for sorrow if we lose.


which we won't. :smile:

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:50 pm 
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Well that's done it -- I'm backflipping.

I said earlier in the week that I didn't really care about the result of the next two games -- preparing for the finals was paramount.

However.

My Hawthorn "friend" at work has just thrown too many insults this week. I know we haven't won a flag or even a final for sometime but this team deserves at least a little respect. They're NOT soft and they're NOT overrated. We're sitting in fourth place because that's where we deserve to be.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:09 pm 
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bluegirl72 wrote:
BlueRob wrote:
Unfortunately ... I think Hawthorn are playing a bit better at the moment ... reckon they will win by 3 or 4 goals ... but:

We could win ... and I hope we win.

Go Blues!


:lol: :lol:
C'mon Marvin....back to bed and get some rest.

May as well be happy before the game...
time enough for sorrow if we lose.


which we won't. :smile:



We are all doomed.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:15 pm 
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BlueRob wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
BlueRob wrote:
Unfortunately ... I think Hawthorn are playing a bit better at the moment ... reckon they will win by 3 or 4 goals ... but:

We could win ... and I hope we win.

Go Blues!


:lol: :lol:
C'mon Marvin....back to bed and get some rest.

May as well be happy before the game...
time enough for sorrow if we lose.


which we won't. :smile:



We are all doomed.


There you are...brain the size of a planet and....

btw...speaking of cheery and uplifting Before The Game...
where is our friend Bondi Blue I wonder.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:32 pm 
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Sugarcane wrote:
I don't understand all the love for Hawthorn

They were very average against Norf and not that far back Brisbane, and haven't beaten Geelong or Coll either - in fact they got spanked by the Pies, granted they had injury issues at the time

Their form is as good as ours really

Our midfield is better but they have the Buddy and Rioli show so could go either way but personally I agree with Gary Lyon that we have been waiting for this game all year and will be really UP for it tonight - hopefully the boys don't let me down as I genuionely expect a CFC win tonite


I agree - Hawthorn still dine out on the 08 flag but its a different team, the gameplans have changed hugely and they have struggled agianst the best this year. This is going to be a close game.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:35 pm 
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Punter22 wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Which is what? Because winning certainly won't do it (it'll be because of their injuries, us having more #1 picks etc). So best think of another reason.


I love the Carlton conspiracy theorists we have. :grin:

Do you honestly care if a commentator says we have a lot of #1 picks? fact is... we do! And if we win a premiership with them in the team.... we've won a premiership! For one, I couldn't give a stuff about style points, or how we win, or who is injured on the other team, or what any commentator says. Do you follow the team wanting it to win, or wanting to read glowing articles in the press? It's all about the result right?

So anyway, my take on why it's important to win tonight.

Fact is Hawthorn have done whatever they've wanted to do against us - for the most part - over the last several years. Anyone who was at the ground last year I'm sure would agree that while the margin wasn't as extreme as some of the hidings we were on the end of in the dark years - the gulf between the teams in terms of appetite for contest was as big as any gap over the last decade. And all the more galling for the fact that we thought we belonged in their company last year. I knew walking out of the ground last year that we had a lot further to go as a team than what I thought walking in.

In most commentators eyes, our list of required 'big scalps' is a list of three - the obvious three. And for validation as a credible challenger to Collingwood, we need to beat one of them. I think that's a completely fair position to take from their perspective. And it's exactly the same point which has been leveled at the bulldogs for the last several years, and has ultimately been proven to be true - so hardly a Carlton conspiracy there.

I honestly believe, that the vast majority of press coverage of the club and players has been fair (in 2011). There have been more articles praising, rightly, the improvement in our list than I can recall in any other season (possible exception 2000, although there was a huge amount of Essendon* that year as well for obvious reasons). I also honestly believe that the vast, vast majority of talk in the press if we win tonight will be centered around our arrival as a legitimate challenger this year - with no strings or qualifiers attached.

Which will be great to hear, and will provide a lot of external validation of how I feel about the team, but ultimately won't have any impact at all about how I feel about the win - because the win is why I follow the team, not the validation.

Go Blues! 24 points! :thumbsup:


Top post! We are ready. :smile:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:38 pm 
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Pencil it in! Carlton by 28 points.

That is all.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:44 pm 
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Robbo Rock in the house tonight!!

Interestingly enough, small/medium forwards have a good record against the Hawks lately.

Green and Howe 7 between them
Campbell 5
Jetta and Davey 5 between them

The worry for us is the midfield kicks plenty for the Hawks as well. We need to watch Smith, Shiels, Breust just as much as Cyril.

Can see some cracking match-ups tonight:

Hendo vs Buddy
AJ vs Cyril
Carrots/Ellard vs Mitchell
Garlett vs Guerra
Yarran vs Bateman
Gibbs vs Burgoyne/Hodge
Judd vs Sewell

Can't see any match-ups for Kreuzer from Hawthorn's side. Gibson will have hope if the game is slowed down with number to support him.

Can't see any match-ups for Laidler in Hawthorns forward line. Obviously the third man up around Buddy, but lets hope his player doesn't get away.

Walker on T-Murphy. Big stage and great match-up for 1AW to kick 5.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 5:46 pm 
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Been a long time since we beat this lot.

Do it for Ian!


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