We all know that we have a tough run home, but worse still, with both West Coast and Hawks having 2 games on us and us not playing the Eagles again, it is conceivable that we could win all our remaining games and still miss out on the top 4. This in fact has been the case even before the start of this round. Both clubs seem to me to have winnable games all the way home. If the Hawks don't drop another game (other than against us) and they will be half a game ahead, Eagles win all their games and they likewise end up half a game ahead. Given we have over 12% on the Eagles, drawing with Essendon* first time could be the killer. Mind you. odds are we'll drop a couple of games, so might they, but I think we are up against it now.

We will finish 5th - we will play freo week 1 at Etihad and have to travel to play West coast week 2

The loss to the Doggies is proving very very costly

We will finish 5th - we will play freo week 1 at Etihad and have to travel to play West coast week 2

The loss to the Doggies is proving very very costly

Us:
Norf (ES) - A bogey side at a bogey ground
Dees (MCG) - Will want to prove they aren't "bruise-free"
Freo (PS) - Our record against them is deplorable
Hawks (ES) - Ditto. Most important game of the year by far for a number of reasons.
Bye - @#$%&! it
Saints (MCG) - Saints coming into form, but playing at the G could work in our favour

Hawks:
Freo (PS) - Could go either way, Hawks have struggled against them over there in the past
Norf (TAS) - Should win, but again Norf seem to play well against them
Port (MCG) - Percentage
Us (ES) - Duh
Doggies (MCG) - Should be too strong
Gold Goast (M) - Percentage

Eagles:
Doggies (ES) - The battle of the teams that [REDACTED] up our chances. We'd better pray like crazy for the Dogs to win this, because if they don't, WC will jump us, simple
Richmond (PS) - Percentage
Melbourne (ES) - Should win comfortably
Scum (PS) - Percentage
Brisbane (G) - Should win, although Lions do well against them up there
Adelaide (PS) - Percentage

We will finish 5th - we will play freo week 1 at Etihad and have to travel to play West coast week 2

The loss to the Doggies is proving very very costly

Not sure if I posted this elsewhere, or just had the discussion with someone...

The team finishing 4th in the last 10 seasons:

2010: Dogs 14 wins
2009: Coll 15 wins
2008: St K 13 wins
2007: North 14 wins
2006: Syd 14 wins
2005: St K 14 wins
2004: Geel 15 wins
2003: Syd 14 wins
2002: Coll 13 wins
2001: Rich 15 wins

3 x 15, 5 x 14, 2 x 13.

This year, it could take 17 wins to finish 4th, certainly at least 16. That's a tough ask!

Unfortunately, we destroyed our chances to win the flag with the WC & Bulldogs losses.

Wouldn't go that far just yet, but we certainly put ourselves in the shit because of those games. I hope this fact isn't lost on the playing group either.

Unfortunately, we destroyed our chances to win the flag with the WC & Bulldogs losses. These are games that top 4 teams don't lose. We thought we where and wanted to be a top 4 team but unfortunately proved we are not. We need to live with it and hopefully save some face come finals time as straight set loses with not be tolerated. I'm sure I'll get the usual smart ass replies ...